How much would you pay for the next Super Mustang?

[Misterman]

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I would think a lot of tire biters in small town AB would.

Along with a good portion of youtubes audience. Guys have full channels of them just hooning their Hellcat around and make a living on those views.

[94boosted]

If this thing ends up costing $100-110CAD then Ford must be smoking crack. On performance metrics alone the GT350R at $85K is already overpriced IMHO considering a ZL1 1LE absolutely curb stomps it for less money. If this new GT500 ends up costing $30K more than a ZL1 1LE it better be quicker on a track than a Ford GT (seeing as the ZL1 1LE effectively matches a Ford GT at C&D's Lightning Lap).

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Disagree. 400whp gets boring pretty quick. 600+whp is living the good life, spinning tires on the street 1st/2nd/3rd if you want always makes life entertaining.

400whp is kind of yawn after a bit. Big enough meats on the back can contain it no problem, that's like base model vette with a tune territory.

Agreed.

[SkiBum5.0]

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If this thing ends up costing $100-110CAD then Ford must be smoking crack. On performance metrics alone the GT350R at $85K is already overpriced IMHO considering a ZL1 1LE absolutely curb stomps it for less money. If this new GT500 ends up costing $30K more than a ZL1 1LE it better be quicker on a track than a Ford GT (seeing as the ZL1 1LE effectively matches a Ford GT at C&D's Lightning Lap).



Agreed.

I believe the Ford GT beat the 1LE by 2.5 seconds around VIR - your point still stands the 1LE bats above average.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/

[94boosted]

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I believe the Ford GT beat the 1LE by 2.5 seconds around VIR - your point still stands the 1LE bats above average.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/

Weird I wonder why there's two lap times for the Ford GT (a 2:43.0 and a 2:45.5).

Edit: I guess they re-ran it a year later but it was warmer and the GT got slower

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2018/

[Darkane]

Rumour is (posted by an insider):

What if the GT500 is faster than the GT on certain tracks?

That’s what he said. So I believe it can match or beat the 1LE.

It will be 110k cdn, no doubt.

Base probably starting at 85k.

Really hope I’m wrong.

[mikestypes]

760 hp and 625 ft-lbs. Still no pricing.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-torque-specs/

[Shlade]

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760 hp and 625 ft-lbs. Still no pricing.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-torque-specs/

I'd guess itll be around the 120k mark or so. Close to the z06 for sure.

[Masked Bandit]

The numbers are still below the Hellcat Redeye, those sticker $100K - $110K depending on options.

[Darkane]

I’m quite happy with ford. Their number is just right, offends no one.

Some were hoping for 800, but rumours (true now) confirmed it would be lower.

9.5:1 CR, Port injection only, 12 psi.

7500rpm.

It’s not a monster via displacement, it makes a fat power curve and will shine on corner exits. That’s my hope.

The carbon track package will push this car to a 110-115k cdn msrp, and I’m guessing most dealers will ask 149,999! Lol.

Camaro has 25 more torque, and will weigh about 100lbs less auto vs DCT.

battle on.

[mr2mike]

You gotta be Upper White Trash to be qualifying for the financing on these new muscle cars.

[Masked Bandit]

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You gotta be Upper White Trash to be qualifying for the financing on these new muscle cars.

The people I know that buy this kind of toy don't finance.

[Buster]

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The people I know that buy this kind of toy don't finance.

Mostly that's because Canada has absolute garbage for high net worth individuals to borrow money for things like this. In the US, many people who have the cash position to buy this type of thing actually lease it because the options for credit are so much better down there.

[ercchry]

There are lots of options for high net worth people, so many different products out there. Even borrowing against private company ownership

[BavarianBeast]

Options are even better when your considered “ultra-high net worth”

Are they going to produce a 6/7 speed manual?

[Buster]

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There are lots of options for high net worth people, so many different products out there. Even borrowing against private company ownership

Show me an equivalent to Pen Fed, and I'll agree with you.

[ercchry]

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Show me an equivalent to Pen Fed, and I'll agree with you.

A credit union for regular people?? Is this a test?

[Buster]

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A credit union for regular people?? Is this a test?

No, I mean I don't think there are Canadian lenders that provide the ultra-competitive rates on exotic cars.

[ercchry]

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No, I mean I don't think there are Canadian lenders that provide the ultra-competitive rates on exotic cars.

Pen doesn’t seem to either... those ultra low rates are only for new cars, and up to $100k which can be had at any dealership. We have bespoke leasing for any sort of exotic you can think of through companies like Pfaff leasing.

[ercchry]

Rate is also meaningless without context. What matters more is untraditional proof of income... A lending with great rates requires the use of provable, taxed income... which means up to about 40% of your income needs to go to the gov... where as for 100-150bps more in rate, you could write off every damn dollar you made, savings there alone outweighs any sort of interest charges. Plus being able to hold the secured asset in a Corp name vs personal...

[Buster]

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Pen doesn’t seem to either... those ultra low rates are only for new cars, and up to $100k which can be had at any dealership. We have bespoke leasing for any sort of exotic you can think of through companies like Pfaff leasing.

AFAIK (havne't looked in a while), Penfed or even Lightstream will do used exotic loans...at those low rates. Maybe things have changed. PFaff is not great in terms of structures or rates.

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Rate is also meaningless without context. What matters more is untraditional proof of income... A lending with great rates requires the use of provable, taxed income... which means up to about 40% of your income needs to go to the gov... where as for 100-150bps more in rate, you could write off every damn dollar you made, savings there alone outweighs any sort of interest charges. Plus being able to hold the secured asset in a Corp name vs personal...

Generally not a good idea to have an exotic car on your corporate balance sheet. The CRA doesn't like it, and it still costs you a ton in standby charges and such.