Omar Khadr awarded $10.5 million

[kertejud2]

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However Mr. KHADR should be spending time in jail for his role as a teenage (not child) terrorist.

The US being soft on treasonous terrorists can be thanked for that one I guess.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle24421830/



One week after a judge set him free, former teen terrorist Omar Khadr has won yet another legal battle with the Conservative government, after the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that he was sentenced as a juvenile, not an adult.

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Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin said it was a straightforward matter: A U.S. military commission sentenced Mr. Khadr to eight years in prison for the war crime of murder, and the mandatory adult penalty for murder in Canada is life. Therefore it had to be a juvenile penalty. The Canadian government argued that Mr. Khadr had received five concurrent penalties of eight years for murder and other charges. The judges expressed bafflement at the argument.

“We can’t slice and dice the eight years,” said Justice Marshall Rothstein, a conservative member of the court.44

[SportEL]

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Wait, are you suggesting that Omar give money to the families of the men who invaded his home in a foreign land, killed his family, shot him multiple times and took him prisoner when he was 15 where he was tortured and held captive illegally? You think he owes them money?

Damn, I hope you're going after every american soldier who killed civilians in Afghanistan and demanding they pay money to the families of the people they killed too. They weren't even willing combatants.

Yes, what's so hard to understand about that? He's an Al-Qaeda terrorist and his 'family' that was killed was his fellow Muslim terrorists. He was convicted of his crimes and he even bragged about it. Even so, he apologized to Christopher Speer's widow in court, and if his apology was actually genuine, he would pay out any of his outrageous settlement to her family.

[dj_patm]

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Yes, what's so hard to understand about that? He's an Al-Qaeda terrorist and his 'family' that was killed was his fellow Muslim terrorists. He was convicted of his crimes and he even bragged about it. Even so, he apologized to Christopher Speer's widow in court, and if his apology was actually genuine, he would pay out any of his outrageous settlement to her family.

At 15.

Do you call the 13,14 and 15 year olds in boko haram terrorists too? Did he kill any civilians? Or just foreign soldiers attacking him?

Anyways, agree to disagree. I don't think 15 year olds being forced into a life like this by their families deserve to be written off as terrorists, have their rights stripped and treated as such, especially when he didn't actually commit any attacks and I definitely don't fault him for not wanting to give money to the family of soldiers that shot him and his family up in front of him at such a young age.

Maybe if he left home on his own to join Al Qaeda, I'd be more inclined to agree.

[Gestalt]

Account and reflection from the US medic that saved Khader.

http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news...-recounts.html

[Power_Of_Rotary]

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Probably give them 3 billion dollars for womens rights training.

Lol... beats the hell out of paying 10m to Omar the committed terrorist

[A790]

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Lol... beats the hell out of paying 10m to Omar the committed terrorist

Is that on Trudeau?

My understanding is that Khadr first filed suit in 2004, with multiple Supreme Court rulings that his rights were violated (the first ruling was in 2008). Every critical review of the case I've read more or less says "Harper fucked up and Trudeau paid out to limit the costs", which were estimated to be around $40 MM should it proceed to the end of trial (where the gov't would likely have lost).

If you know something I don't, please share.

[Tik-Tok]

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If you know something I don't, please share.

You're missing the DURRHURR FUCK TRUDEAU! DURRHURR sentimentality.

You know, ignoring the fact it was our law enforcement fucking up and screwing over a citizens rights.

[Power_Of_Rotary]

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Is that on Trudeau?

My understanding is that Khadr first filed suit in 2004, with multiple Supreme Court rulings that his rights were violated (the first ruling was in 2008). Every critical review of the case I've read more or less says "Harper fucked up and Trudeau paid out to limit the costs", which were estimated to be around $40 MM should it proceed to the end of trial (where the gov't would likely have lost).

If you know something I don't, please share.

If I recall correctly, Trudeau endorses the decision and delivered a personal apology... lol

[ExtraSlow]

Who the fuck still cares about Khadr? That doesn't even make the top ten list of shit to be angry about no matter what your political views.

[Power_Of_Rotary]

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Who the fuck still cares about Khadr? That doesn't even make the top ten list of shit to be angry about no matter what your political views.

Chill, angry village man. It was something I remembered off the top of my head.

[A790]

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If I recall correctly, Trudeau endorses the decision and delivered a personal apology... lol

He does indeed endorse the decision. He said that he'd rather pay $10.5 MM than the est. $30 - $40 MM that they'd have been on the hook for. Let's not forget that Khadr had won multiple supreme court victories. There was no way he was losing.

[Power_Of_Rotary]

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He does indeed endorse the decision. He said that he'd rather pay $10.5 MM than the est. $30 - $40 MM that they'd have been on the hook for. Let's not forget that Khadr had won multiple supreme court victories. There was no way he was losing.

I still dont understand how he could win. The justice system is fucking broken. Stubborn principles over logic. CANADA!

[Tik-Tok]

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I still dont understand how he could win. The justice system is fucking broken. Stubborn principles over logic. CANADA!

Because the law was knowingly broken by the authorities.

[Power_Of_Rotary]

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Because the law was knowingly broken by the authorities.

I get that. But laws and "canadian rights" should (IMO) have been revoked the moment you chose to fight against your own country and kill allies. This case should have sparked new considerations on when citizenship and rights can be revoked due to extreme cases.

[mazdavirgin]

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I get that. But laws and "canadian rights" should (IMO) have been revoked the moment you chose to fight against your own country and kill allies. This case should have sparked new considerations on when citizenship and rights can be revoked due to extreme cases.

Rights apply to *everyone* in the country, citizens or not doesn't matter they are all entitled to the same human rights which are irrevocable. The whole herp derp I am conservative I want to take away random people rights I don't like is frankly stupid in the extreme and would lead us down the path towards becoming a totalitarian cesspool. Whose to say the government decides they don't like you next time and take away your rights?

[Power_Of_Rotary]

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Rights apply to *everyone* in the country, citizens or not doesn't matter they are all entitled to the same human rights which are irrevocable. The whole herp derp I am conservative I want to take away random people rights I don't like is frankly stupid in the extreme and would lead us down the path towards becoming a totalitarian cesspool. Whose to say the government decides they don't like you next time and take away your rights?

Lol no one wants their rights taken away. Also, no one wants their husband, wife, children killed by terrorists either. Now, imagine your family was killed in a terrorist act, and one of the terrorist gets a lottery amount of payout due to "violations". Seriously, its people like YOU that have no sense of right or wrong. Just follow the damn books and be a stubborn robot.

[vengie]

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Rights apply to *everyone* in the country, citizens or not doesn't matter they are all entitled to the same human rights which are irrevocable. The whole herp derp I am conservative I want to take away random people rights I don't like is frankly stupid in the extreme and would lead us down the path towards becoming a totalitarian cesspool. Whose to say the government decides they don't like you next time and take away your rights?

Random people’s rights /= convicted terrorist rights

Let’s just clear that up

[95EagleAWD]

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I get that. But laws and "canadian rights" should (IMO) have been revoked the moment you chose to fight against your own country and kill allies. This case should have sparked new considerations on when citizenship and rights can be revoked due to extreme cases.

I agree with this.

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Rights apply to *everyone* in the country, citizens or not doesn't matter they are all entitled to the same human rights which are irrevocable. The whole herp derp I am conservative I want to take away random people rights I don't like is frankly stupid in the extreme and would lead us down the path towards becoming a totalitarian cesspool. Whose to say the government decides they don't like you next time and take away your rights?

I also agree with this.

[Brent.ff]

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. Now, imagine your family was killed in a terrorist act, and one of the terrorist gets a lottery amount of payout due to "violations"

Good imagination, but not what happened.

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Random people’s rights /= convicted terrorist rights

Let’s just clear that up

calling Khadr a terrorist is a big stretch, let alone 'murder' during a firefight.


I thought this was about Iran..?

[ExtraSlow]

If we want to change the laws to have a special class of offense that somehow places citizens outside the regular system of rights and protections, I guess you'd better write to your MP.

But the idea that we'd strip away those rights retroactively because of how personally disgusted we are about the offense, is downright frightening.