Hand over hand versus shuffle steering

[speedog]

So I've stumbled on to information lately that would suggest that some driver training schools have dropped the hand over hand steering method in favour of the shuffle method and the reasoning is that there is less risk of an airbag injury to one's arms/wrists if using the shuffle method versus the hand over hand method which places one's arms/wrists in a position between the steering wheel airbag and one's chest.

I'm still a hand over hand guy - curious as to other people's thoughts on this and what method they use.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Sky]

I do shuffle, hand over hand and single hand palm mostly shuffle though

[D'z Nutz]

I actually had to think about this cause it's one of those things I've been doing so long it just comes naturally, but it depends on the situation. Sometimes I just apply pressure on my palm and do a one handed steering wheel turn, other times I'll flip my hand around so that it's in the inside of the steering wheel and I'll pull it around, and in situations where none of those are ideal I'll do hand over hand.

Never even thought of the shuffle method before.

[rage2]

Never actually thought about it, but looked at one of my in car vids at an autox, and damn what a mess.



Quick turn-in movements, hand over hand. Slow movements, shuffle. Quick unwind, I let go and the wheel do the work, gripping it when I want steering to stop. I believe the last one is a huge no-no, but I seem to have a good sense of wheel position when doing it, probably from my drifting days where it's the only way to steer from one end to the other quickly.

[D'z Nutz]

Oh right, I do the release and grab too. Forgot about that.

[rage2]

That second similar thread is interesting...

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Same here, I do both. I'll shuffle, or hand over hand, depending on the situation (or single hand all the way around), with the release and grab to straighten out.

This is both day to day, and AutoX situations.

[Tik-Tok]

I do the palm turn, i suppose in the case of airbag deployment, it's better than hand over hand because only one arm is across the airbag, but worse than the hand shuffle.

[botox]

I've heard about this rule before but it hasn't changed my driving style. I learned with stick and have been driving with it for a good 20 years so I have bad habits with mainly a one arm driving technique. Mostly palm with the release and grab coming out of turns with hand touching wheel at all times to control speed of turn and occasionally a mix of shuffle/hand over hand for more aggressive driving. I would say I'm about a 95% one arm driver cause I'm a pretty laid back driver.

[J-hop]

Seems to me its not really going to save anyone's life switching to shuffle. If you think about it if you are in a situation where you are using hand over hand or shuffle (turning at an intersection, very sharp turn in the road) chances are you aren't going to be getting hit head on. It's most likely going to be a side impact in which case your steering wheel airbag probably isn't going to deploy.

[jwslam]

I use the palm method... I'm a one hander.

On another note, I thought we all drive with knobs

[Shlade]

^ That's not yours is it?

Must be a bus driver haha

[jacky4566]

You guys drive with two hands? How do I hold my cell phone?

[jwslam]

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^ That's not yours is it?

Must be a bus driver haha

No.
I drive an actual Accord, not the Beyond standard AccordMG

[ExtraSlow]

I too drive with one hand. That's how I give hand jobs to the hitchhikers I pick up.

[A2VR6]

Hmm watching my in-car vids it's shuffle steering for me. I've seen a lot of other people do the release and grab too, seems pretty nuts but it seems to work haha.

[Tik-Tok]

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I too drive with one hand. That's how I give hand jobs to the hitchhikers I pick up.

I THOUGHT I recognized you when we met up last month!

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Hmm watching my in-car vids it's shuffle steering for me. I've seen a lot of other people do the release and grab too, seems pretty nuts but it seems to work haha.

Should define it a little better than release and grab, it's more like throttling the unwind rate of the steering wheel by using hands to brake it depending on how fast I want it to unwind. If I need quicker unwind it's a bit of shuffle, grab and jerk. Hands are always on the steering wheel.

[ercchry]

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Hmm watching my in-car vids it's shuffle steering for me. I've seen a lot of other people do the release and grab too, seems pretty nuts but it seems to work haha.

best way when drifting to "find" the front wheels is to just let the car do it... but then you need to get your hands back on to feed in more counter steer

im pretty bad and palm it a lot while around the city, shuffle just feels weird, while in a spirited situation i tend to have a combo of moves depending on types of corners, and if i need to find a new gear.

i focus my steering energy more on not locking my thumbs... because in field at race city, and bump steer back in the day, couple close calls

EDIT: just searched "in car drifting" and first hit basically is what i mean... must be my drifting background