Air Conditioning!

[cyra1ax]

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Can you get a "heat pump" and make Trudeau pay a portion?

I thought that wasn't possible anymore cause they somehow ran out of tree-grown money in the Greener Homes program?

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[email protected]

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Chestermere Heating and Cooling if you need another quote

Thanks!

[msommers]

Nothing official on their website from what I can see.

https://natural-resources.canada.ca/...retrofit/23504

[BerserkerCatSplat]

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Costco seems to have pretty good prices and rebates

Unless it's changed recently, Costco's AC is just farmed out to Arpi's and they give an inflated price with a Costco card. When we did ours, it was by far the least competitive quote we received.

[beecue]

I've started to get quotes for this year and below are my options so far (2025 sq ft). Considering getting the Tempstar, is that a decent brand?

1. Goodman GSXN4 - 3.5 Ton - 14.3 SEER - $6720

2. Tempstar S4A5S - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $5695
3. Tempstar T4A6S- 3 Ton - 16.5 SEER - $5740
4. Tempstar N4A5S- 3 Ton - 17 SEER - $5250

5. Ducane 4AC16L - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $4925

6. Carrier - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $6599 (Possibly Trane XR15 for same price)

I'm still waiting to hear back from Airdrie Air for some quotes too on Trane.

[msommers]

Yeah prices seem to be about right.

[cyra1ax]

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I've started to get quotes for this year and below are my options so far (2025 sq ft). Considering getting the Tempstar, is that a decent brand?

1. Goodman GSXN4 - 3.5 Ton - 14.3 SEER - $6720

2. Tempstar S4A5S - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $5695
3. Tempstar T4A6S- 3 Ton - 16.5 SEER - $5740
4. Tempstar N4A5S- 3 Ton - 17 SEER - $5250

5. Ducane 4AC16L - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $4925

6. Carrier - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $6599 (Possibly Trane XR15 for same price)

I'm still waiting to hear back from Airdrie Air for some quotes too on Trane.

Airdrie Air:
Trane XR14 3.5 Ton = $7125.30
Ducane 4AC13L 3.5 Ton = $5724.81

Personally, I'm somewhere between Gavin and Airdrie Air.
Gavin is definitely cheapest out of the lot.

[msommers]

Chestermere Heating and Cooling was really great to deal with, as another option.

[dj_rice]

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I've started to get quotes for this year and below are my options so far (2025 sq ft). Considering getting the Tempstar, is that a decent brand?

1. Goodman GSXN4 - 3.5 Ton - 14.3 SEER - $6720

2. Tempstar S4A5S - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $5695
3. Tempstar T4A6S- 3 Ton - 16.5 SEER - $5740
4. Tempstar N4A5S- 3 Ton - 17 SEER - $5250

5. Ducane 4AC16L - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $4925

6. Carrier - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $6599 (Possibly Trane XR15 for same price)

I'm still waiting to hear back from Airdrie Air for some quotes too on Trane.

Out of the bunch I'd go with Goodman or Carrier

[BokCh0y]

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I've started to get quotes for this year and below are my options so far (2025 sq ft). Considering getting the Tempstar, is that a decent brand?

1. Goodman GSXN4 - 3.5 Ton - 14.3 SEER - $6720

2. Tempstar S4A5S - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $5695
3. Tempstar T4A6S- 3 Ton - 16.5 SEER - $5740
4. Tempstar N4A5S- 3 Ton - 17 SEER - $5250

5. Ducane 4AC16L - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $4925

6. Carrier - 3 Ton - 16 SEER - $6599 (Possibly Trane XR15 for same price)

I'm still waiting to hear back from Airdrie Air for some quotes too on Trane.

3.5t for 2025 sq ft??? My old house was 2028 sq ft and we got a Goodman 2.5t from Action Furnace - who btw sent someone out to spec it properly and measure the rooms, windows, etc., and that's the size they came back with.

I won't state price because obviously that was a while back and don't want to make you cry.

Here's a link below for you, but if you're too lazy to click to link, I just quoted the important points for you:

https://www.enercare.ca/blog/home-co...5%2Dton%20unit.

Here are some general guidelines to estimate of the unit size you may need in Ontario. For example, you can roughly estimate one-ton per 750-1000 square feet, so a 2,000 square foot home may require a 2.0 – 2.5-ton unit. To convert to BTUs / hour, multiply tons by 12,000.

Installing the correct size air conditioning unit for your home makes a significant impact on your comfort and energy bills. You might think that bigger is always better, but that is not the case. If you purchase an air conditioner that is too large, it will cool your space too rapidly. This will cause it to continuously shut off and turn back on, which leads to lower efficiency and higher costs and sometimes more broken air conditioner repairs.

On the other hand, if you choose a unit that is too small for your home, it will run constantly to cool the space, and in some cases may never achieve the desired temperature. This increases your costs and may leave you too warm in the summer.

For the record, I am no HVAC expert, but I am simply relaying my experience to you because a 2.5t unit is def cheaper than a 3.5t unit. Also the quote re: too big or too small a unit, that's important.

[msommers]

Better to undersize than oversize that's for sure

[ExtraSlow]

Don't you normally size to the furnace? Because Tha5s how much air the furnace can move?

Can you "throttle down" a larger unit?

[beecue]

Well none of them quoted me for 3.5 ton. The four that have given me quotes have all quoted 3 ton. I think they are basing that on 700x3.

[msommers]

Some brands don't always offer a X.5 sizing.

For us above ground sq.ft is 1,700 and were looking at 2.5 or 3.0T sizing depending on the brand, so 3T for 2,000 sq.ft doesn't seem outlandish.

3.5T might be pushing it depending on the number of stages. The problem with oversizing (furnace, heat pump, A/C) is short-cycling - you'll get a big burst of hot or cool from the device and then it'll shut-off shortly after because the thermostat registers the desired temperature has been achieved. Short-cyling will kill your mechanicals, so that's why it's better to undersize things so they run longer at a time.

The only devices that could potentially be safe to oversize would be a variable furnace or heat pump because they can operate as low as like 10% capacity constantly (Daikin does this, I bet others do too). But oversizing anything is nothing I'd advocate for.

[redline]

I just did a deal with https://www.customheating.ca/ for my new house

it was a way better deal then Gavin, arpi, knight, action, costco or W&j

would recommend!

[g-m]

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Some brands don't always offer a X.5 sizing.

For us above ground sq.ft is 1,700 and were looking at 2.5 or 3.0T sizing depending on the brand, so 3T for 2,000 sq.ft doesn't seem outlandish.

3.5T might be pushing it depending on the number of stages. The problem with oversizing (furnace, heat pump, A/C) is short-cycling - you'll get a big burst of hot or cool from the device and then it'll shut-off shortly after because the thermostat registers the desired temperature has been achieved. Short-cyling will kill your mechanicals, so that's why it's better to undersize things so they run longer at a time.

The only devices that could potentially be safe to oversize would be a variable furnace or heat pump because they can operate as low as like 10% capacity constantly (Daikin does this, I bet others do too). But oversizing anything is nothing I'd advocate for.

2 stage. I love our 2 stage AC. Usually only uses 1 stage but on those REAL hot days or to achieve the 18C nighttime temp it kicks the second stage on