Air Conditioning!

[revelations]

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My furnace is from 2000. Mid effiency. Would they just add A/C existing to this or do I have to get a new furnace as well

You need a certain plenum width and CFM fan to push air through the coils. If its not sufficient, you can just upgrade the fan.

[dj_rice]

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You need a certain plenum width and CFM fan to push air through the coils. If its not sufficient, you can just upgrade the fan.

Okay thanks.

Time to start calling companies for some quotes

[sabad66]

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My furnace is from 2000. Mid effiency. Would they just add A/C existing to this or do I have to get a new furnace as well

In most cases it should be possible but there are certain things that could be showstoppers.

Also make sure you shop around and get quotes from multiple companies. For example in my case with original furnaces in my place from 1980, W&J said they would not add a/c to my system without replacing furnace, but every other company said they would. So just watch out for that

[nagooro]

Getting quotes from Arpis, Action furance, W&J, and Caloris. Will update the thread on which I decide to go with.

[Willis]

I just had Breck at Hunter's Heating install a 4 ton 13 SEER Lennox unit. Great guy and good price. www.huntersheating.com

[nagooro]

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I just had Breck at Hunter's Heating install a 4 ton 13 SEER Lennox unit. Great guy and good price. www.huntersheating.com

Can I ask how much?

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Can I ask how much?

You just did.

[Tik-Tok]

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You just did.

No, he asked if he was allowed to ask. He hasn't actually asked yet.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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No, he asked if he was allowed to ask. He hasn't actually asked yet.

That is almost as inefficient as SKR asking people to ask questions on his behalf. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[nagooro]

Got one quote so far from Arpi's.

Lennox EL16XC1 (elite series), 16 SEER, 3.5 ton - $5300
Lennox ML14XC1 (Merit series), rated 14-16 SEER, 3.5 ton - $4440

Seems like it might be on the pricier side compared to what others have been quoted.

Few more quotes coming this week.

[eblend]

So I am thinking of getting whole house AC for next year, and just got a few questions for those who had an install done.

1. Does an AC unit require a concrete pad? If it does, does the install include the pad?
2. Basement is finished, my utility room is across the hall from where my electrical is, with finished ceiling all across. Would the installer be able to get a wire across without destroying the ceiling? All the trusses run perpendicular to the path of the wire..

[sabad66]

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So I am thinking of getting whole house AC for next year, and just got a few questions for those who had an install done.

1. Does an AC unit require a concrete pad? If it does, does the install include the pad?
2. Basement is finished, my utility room is across the hall from where my electrical is, with finished ceiling all across. Would the installer be able to get a wire across without destroying the ceiling? All the trusses run perpendicular to the path of the wire..

1. no concrete pad required, it can be either mounted on some metal brackets to the side of your house or on a rubber pad
2. Really depends on your specific situation. If it's truly a clear path, they should be able to fish it through but otherwise they might have to cut one or two access panels to help it. Best to get them to assess your specific situation when they come in for a quote.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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So I am thinking of getting whole house AC for next year, and just got a few questions for those who had an install done.

1. Does an AC unit require a concrete pad? If it does, does the install include the pad?
2. Basement is finished, my utility room is across the hall from where my electrical is, with finished ceiling all across. Would the installer be able to get a wire across without destroying the ceiling? All the trusses run perpendicular to the path of the wire..

1) No. You can get pre-made pads (rather than poured concrete) or brackets that bolt into the side of your house. Mine is on brackets and despite what I thought, it produces zero vibrations and I am quite pleased with it.

2) 100% depends. If you have ceiling tiles or pot lights, they probably can fish it through, but it depends on what way your joists are going as to how much of a pain it will be. If they are perpendicular like you say, that will make it harder. Probably not a huge deal - you won't be the first person with a less than ideal install location.

[Darell_n]

Wires are easy, can you get 2 copper pipes between the furnace and outside where the outdoor unit will be sitting? Also, the concrete pads you see everywhere are fake. They are just coated styrofoam.

[Willis]

It was around $4200 (GST included). Inquire about a cash job option to save a few bucks.

[Tik-Tok]

Wouldn't cash job mean no warranty?

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Wouldn't cash job mean no warranty?

Exactly. On the other hand, a lot of contractors don't honor their warranty anyways.

[Darell_n]

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Wouldn't cash job mean no warranty?

Versus using a credit card and burning 5% of the profit.

[sabad66]

You need to switch payment processors if it’s costing you 5%. Should be no more than 2.5% and that’s at the very expensive end of things

[BavarianBeast]

Cash jobs are fine, just get a paid invoice.