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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleks View Post
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    People are always shocked by new car prices. We live in a world where a new Camry V6 is close to $45,000 otd. Low 50k for these sedans is good pricing still.
    I agree with this. If the G70 or Stinger are close in price to the TSX (low 50's loaded) then they will be a great deal. And I would buy the G70 or Stinger over a TSX anyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blownz View Post
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    I agree with this. If the G70 or Stinger are close in price to the TSX (low 50's loaded) then they will be a great deal. And I would buy the G70 or Stinger over a TSX anyday.
    agreed. A lot of the sedans that used to be sports themed look really tired now. I think that Stinger looks amazing.
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    http://www.motortrend.com/cars/genes...ve-seoul-soul/

    Starting to look like this car will be pretty good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzdspd View Post
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    http://www.motortrend.com/cars/genes...ve-seoul-soul/

    Starting to look like this car will be pretty good!
    Man, it's hard to make a car stand out nowadays.

    Looking through the gallery gave me reminders of:

    - Mazda (front)
    - Infiniti (side 3/4 view from the front)
    - BMW (rear)

    Those quilted seats though... HNGH
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    Quote Originally Posted by blownz View Post
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    I agree with this. If the G70 or Stinger are close in price to the TSX (low 50's loaded) then they will be a great deal. And I would buy the G70 or Stinger over a TSX anyday.
    Stinger price announced for Canada:

    GT $44,195
    GT Limited $49,995

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    I wonder how the Stinger will be for second hand pricing. I imagine it'll probably drop a lot unless for some reason owners all of a sudden think their Kia shouldn't depreciate moreso than most brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rx7boi View Post
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    I wonder how the Stinger will be for second hand pricing. I imagine it'll probably drop a lot unless for some reason owners all of a sudden think their Kia shouldn't depreciate moreso than most brands.
    Depends on how market perception is. If it's good enough that people won't re-sell, and is reliable enough, then I can see it keeping their value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Stinger price announced for Canada:

    GT $44,195
    GT Limited $49,995
    The pricing is almost identical to the infiniti Q50. I think the Q50 would be a safer longer term alternative, especially at similar initial pricing

    http://www.infiniti.ca/buildyourinfi...ocator/results

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    As with all Korean vehicles, they sound like a great idea on paper, but then once you get into the details it’s not as compelling. In real life the engine won’t be as powerful as the German rivals. The transmission won’t be as smooth. It’ll be a bit heavier. It won’t sound as good. It won’t handle as well. The interior won’t be as polished. And it will obviously depreciate much faster.

    Add it all up, it’s an inferior vehicle and it feels compromised. That’s why you are paying less, not because it’s a bargain.

    For me the choice is easy. Save another $7-8g and buy a base S4/340/c43. It might not have all the options, but I’ll take that simplicity over a bunch of tacky bullshit that I’ll never use. Or a Q50. Or you could just wait 2 years and buy one for $25g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimi View Post
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    As with all Korean vehicles, they sound like a great idea on paper, but then once you get into the details it’s not as compelling. In real life the engine won’t be as powerful as the German rivals. The transmission won’t be as smooth. It’ll be a bit heavier. It won’t sound as good. It won’t handle as well. The interior won’t be as polished. And it will obviously depreciate much faster.
    Even if it was identically comparable in all those ways, it'll take years to build up a reputation enough for it not to depreciate quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Stinger price announced for Canada:

    GT $44,195
    GT Limited $49,995
    Definitely impressive pricing considering all the standard features.

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    The pricing is almost identical to the infiniti Q50. I think the Q50 would be a safer longer term alternative, especially at similar initial pricing
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    Not even close to similar pricing when you add options to the Infiniti. You are looking at $57K for the 300hp Q50 and $61K for the 400hp Q50. Plus there are things like the HUD and wireless phone charging that Infiniti doesn't even have available. The Stinger is closer in price to the Nissan Maxima than it is to the Infiniti Q50 yet I think most people will compare it to the Q50 long before they compare it to the Maxima.


    Based on the few reviews out there so far, I still think the Stinger (and the G70 will likely be similar) will be a great option compared to a TSX (~$53K loaded) or Q50. It may still be a step below the German's, but you are paying more like mid 70's for a comparably equipped S4/340/C43. That is close to 50% more money. Not sure if you can even compare that.

    I personally think the styling is a bit much for me, and the interior doesn't look as premium as some of the other cars it wants to compete with. But I love the body style (hatch) and the specs are impressive and same with the reviews so far. I actually plan on buying a new daily driver this coming spring and I will definitely take a close look at one of these.

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    I saw the G80 earlier this week driving around....jesus fuck that is hot looking car. Not sure how it'll be from a reliability standpoint though, but fuck still a really hot looking car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blownz View Post
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    Definitely impressive pricing considering all the standard features.

    It looks like MSRP is actually less in Canada than USA on the Limited model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BokCh0y View Post
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    Not sure how it'll be from a reliability standpoint though, but fuck still a really hot looking car.
    Hyundai and Kia tend to be at the upper end of reliability from the JD power studies... Whereas infiniti is at the bottom.

    I would definitely consider this car (Stinger) if I was in that market for a larger sedan. IMO I would put the Q50 on the bottom of the list for cars in this segment, the transmission and steering just ruin the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rx7boi View Post
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    I wonder how the Stinger will be for second hand pricing. I imagine it'll probably drop a lot unless for some reason owners all of a sudden think their Kia shouldn't depreciate moreso than most brands.
    https://jalopnik.com/kia-is-offering...f-y-1820848361

    Kia already put $7K on the hood on a GT2 if you lease one in US. Resell is going to be BAD.

    If Kia put $9K CAD on the hood in Canada, I will definitely get one! lol.

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    That's got to be the only way a lease would ever make sense on that car given the rock-bottom residual it must have. Cadillac does the same thing all the time here too. They just can't shake that stigma I guess.

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    http://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeature...-DM-EN-CONTENT

    52K to start for the 3.3TT Dynamic and 57.5K for the 3.3TT Sport. With freight/pdi/tax that's 60K I no longer see the value in this thing at that price point. It's direct competitor (on paper) the Initini red sport starts at 52.6K.

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    Ya no thx, I'll take a Bmw/merc/Lexus for about the same price and avoid having to spend 10 minutes explaining why I spent 60g on a Hyundai no ones ever heard of.

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