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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
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    $90K is probably a good deal for what you get relative to an S class or 7 series that costs ~$50K more but I think the majority of people buying those types of cars want it to say Mercedes or BMW or Audi, not Hyundai - and can afford to pay for it.
    Yeah exactly. You could make the same argument (sales pitch?) for the equus or whatever that pile of dog shit was called. I think I've only ever seen like two of them IRL; not exactly a roaring success.

    Maybe genesis will be able to break into that segment one day, but I highly doubt they're there yet.

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    Fresh spy shots are out on the G80 without the heavy black camo, supposed to be full reveal next month in Korea.

    https://www.motor1.com/news/363783/2...80-drops-camo/
    That digital rendering makes it look terrible
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    GV80 might be our next family car

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam c View Post
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    That digital rendering makes it look terrible
    Yes it does. Someone just took the stock image of the G80 and photoshopped quad head lights and tail lights and a bigger grille. They butchered it big time. Not sure why anyone would give any thought to posting that on their website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I don't know why anybody would even look at this for that price, haha

    You can buy an actual luxury car with lineage and pedigree for this price


    Reminds me of that time VW tried to come out with a 100K luxury car:
    https://carbuzz.com/news/biggest-aut...swagen-phaeton
    That has infinitely more pedigree and engineering/build quality to substantiate the price than Hyundai can offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I don't know why anybody would even look at this for that price, haha

    You can buy an actual luxury car with lineage and pedigree for this price
    You don't need to sell this after 3 years when the warranty expires.

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    I think most people would prefer to buy a couple year old Benz or BMW for the same price, or even a Lexus/Audi/Jag ...

    However, for payment buyers, this could be a good option, instead of $2K plus a month .. probably just $1,500 or 1,200 ..
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    "Pedigree"

    Hilarious. With parts from China and an engine manufactured in Mexico lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roopi View Post
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    You don't need to sell this after 3 years when the warranty expires.
    Instead with these the value will have dropped so far after 3 years you won’t be able to sell it
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    Damn feel like I’m young again for being too poor to buy a brand new Hyundai. Good for them I hope the Korean can break into the luxury class in the future where the Japanese still hasn’t quite succeeded yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Instead with these the value will have dropped so far after 3 years you wont be able to sell it
    I for one look forward to buying it, used for $20g

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    The G90's have always been up there in price. According to the Genesis Canada website, you can order a 2019 V8 G90 for $87k. The 2020 is $89750. Buying new, you'd be crazy to not get the 2020 for the difference in price.

    That being said, I found two on kijiji and auto trader. A 2019 with 150km on it (demo?) for $75k and a 2017 with 40,000 km on it for $55k. They do depreciate like a mofo.
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    Fresh GV70 spyshot showing it wearing its final body. (supposedly)

    https://thekoreancarblog.com/2019/08...in-now-in-red/
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp View Post
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    The G90's have always been up there in price. According to the Genesis Canada website, you can order a 2019 V8 G90 for $87k. The 2020 is $89750. Buying new, you'd be crazy to not get the 2020 for the difference in price.

    That being said, I found two on kijiji and auto trader. A 2019 with 150km on it (demo?) for $75k and a 2017 with 40,000 km on it for $55k. They do depreciate like a mofo.
    Thats true of any luxury oriented vehicle. We used to call the BMW 6 series the "depreciation king" when I worked at Bentley. Guys would try to trade in a few year old M6 and we couldnt even offer them a 1/4 of its value. 7 series, S class, CLS etc... all drop like a rock. I looked at the S500's when I was shopping and I took the G90 based on comfort, reliability and 5yr/100k service included. Im the black sheep in this chat lol but Im happy with my car and have been very happy with the Genesis experience overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by civic_stylez View Post
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    Thats true of any luxury oriented vehicle. We used to call the BMW 6 series the "depreciation king" when I worked at Bentley. Guys would try to trade in a few year old M6 and we couldnt even offer them a 1/4 of its value. 7 series, S class, CLS etc... all drop like a rock. I looked at the S500's when I was shopping and I took the G90 based on comfort, reliability and 5yr/100k service included. Im the black sheep in this chat lol but Im happy with my car and have been very happy with the Genesis experience overall.
    Curious how you came to the reliability conclusion on a model that has only been around ~4 years? Not trying to be rude, I am genuinely curious. I think the long-term reliability on a lot of these new Hyundai's is yet to be seen, but if you don't keep it past 4-5 years then it's irrelevant anyway due to the warranty (unless you're that one guy with a Genesis 5.0 from the other thread haha).

    If they do hold up over time, these will be some of the best used market deals ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civic_stylez View Post
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    Thats true of any luxury oriented vehicle. We used to call the BMW 6 series the "depreciation king" when I worked at Bentley. Guys would try to trade in a few year old M6 and we couldnt even offer them a 1/4 of its value. 7 series, S class, CLS etc... all drop like a rock. I looked at the S500's when I was shopping and I took the G90 based on comfort, reliability and 5yr/100k service included. Im the black sheep in this chat lol but Im happy with my car and have been very happy with the Genesis experience overall.
    89coupe was selling his 5 year 7 series for $35K or something. $135K new. I'm going to buy a corolla next.

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    Valid question... my first Genesis was an 09 3.8 and I did have a 15 Genesis 5.0 but mine never had a single issue. I do know the thread your talking about though. I more identify with the Genesis brand. Genesis has technically only been on its own for a few years but Hyundai reliability overall is very good. Ive clocked some good mileage in the brand and when I wanted a boat sized sedan, I naturally looked into the G90 based on my years in Genesis. Ive worked for Ferrari and for Bentley and a lot of the customers used to have S class, 7 series, Mas QP and other luxury sedans as part of their daily driver fleet. I was always surprised by the frequency of issues and lack of service/support when these issues arose. My dream car is still the Merc S65 but I just wanted to avoid the nightmares associated with these cars. You can get them for cheap but the average 5k/yr to keep them on the road does not interest me. I love the Alpina B7 but we sold a few of them and had them in our shop more than the owners had them in their garages.

    As you said, maybe after 5 years this car will crumble and fall apart at the seams. I just found that Merc and BMW are known to be nightmares after warranty and they are well aware of that and dont attempt to hide from it or dispute it. Genesis still has a LOT to prove (as seen in this thread) so maybe they will be the one that steps up and makes a luxury class vehicle that lasts. My experience has been excellent from day one and thats why I drive the "90k Hyundai" lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by civic_stylez View Post
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    Genesis still has a LOT to prove (as seen in this thread)
    You bet they do. But I believe that the next few years will be a pivotal moment for the brand. As their SUV line up gets fleshed out, I think they will be successful. Perhaps a few less F-Pace, Q5, X3, XC60 on the road and more GV70/80/possible 90.

    That being said, I am a Genesis fanboy that's fully committed to a 2021 G80 purchase. I showed my fiancee a G70 but she wants to remain in a small SUV so I have been watching the GV70 development like a hawk.
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