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    Default Application to rename Calgary to Wichispa Oyade

    http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn...ge-recognition

    If a group of First Nations get their wish, Calgary will be renamed Wichispa Oyade — Stoney Nakoda terms that roughly translate to mean elbow town.

    The Stoney Nakoda have applied to have a long list of well-known places across southern Alberta changed to reflect traditional names given by their people.

    Their application letter to the Alberta government also includes Canmore, the Bow River, Mount Allan and dozens of other sites that they consider to be part of their territory.

    “The Stoney Nakoda people are the original occupants of the land and place names should be changed to their traditional Stoney Nakoda names in order to allow the culture and history of these lands to become more known and respected,” reads the letter.

    The First Nations argue that the English or Cree names many of these places have fail to reflect their specific Indigenous history.

    “This lack of recognition contributes to an increasing threat that Stoney Nakoda heritage will be overrun.”

    The Stoney Nations, descendants of the Sioux, include three bands with the largest reserve located west of Calgary.

    They have been suing the province and the federal government over their aboriginal and treaty rights, including land and resources, in a complex case that was originally filed in 2003.

    The claim covers a big part of southern Alberta and the eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains.

    Douglas Rae, a lawyer for the First Nations, said the name change application is not part of the lawsuit, but an attempt by the bands to prove their ties to the land.

    “The Stoneys are asserting their rights, and good evidence of these claims is to formally ask for recognition of the Stoney Nakoda names,” Rae said.

    Some of the proposed name changes are fairly literal translations.

    Elder Wallace Ear said the word for Bow River is Ijathibe Wapta, a place where people made bows out of saskatoon saplings.

    They are also suggesting Mini Thni Wapta as an alternative, which means cold river, a description that won’t surprise anyone who has ever tipped a canoe in the Bow.

    The proposal for Canmore — Chuwapchipchiyan Kude Bi — has no direct connection to its existing moniker. The town was named Canmore in the 1880s by a railway official after an ancient king of Scotland.

    Elder Frank Powderface said the Stoney name reflects a hunter who fooled himself by shooting at what he thought was a wolf in the willows, but there was no animal, only willows.

    Alberta’s Geographical Names Program has never before dealt with such an extensive list of requested changes.

    Ron Kelland, program co-ordinator, said the application will be evaluated in a process that will include public consultations. Researchers will look at old maps and historical documents.

    “We are in the early stages of looking at it and we are very much looking forward to engaging the Stoney Nakoda on these names,” he said.

    Final decisions on naming natural geographical features are made by the Alberta Historical Resources Foundation and the government.

    Changing community names is up to the province, but requests that involve First Nations must be presented to Ottawa.

    Kelland said it’s possible for a natural location to have both an official and a traditional name.

    In 1984, the province changed the name of Mount Laurie west of Calgary to also include its Stoney Nakoda traditional name Iyamnathka, which means flat-surfaced rock or mountain.
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    I thought we were changing it to amazonia?
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    They can't be seriously expecting Calgary to change its' name... probably a tactic to extract concessions in negotiations for certain rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hampstor View Post
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    They can't be seriously expecting Calgary to change its' name... probably a tactic to extract concessions in negotiations for certain rights.
    They have enough rights.

    Stop pandering to their bullshit.
    "The squeaky wheel gets the grease", they do this because they know we will give in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vengie View Post
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    They have enough rights.

    Stop pandering to their bullshit.
    "The squeaky wheel gets the grease", they do this because they know we will give in.
    We already are:

    Ron Kelland, program co-ordinator, said the application will be evaluated in a process that will include public consultations. Researchers will look at old maps and historical documents.

    “We are in the early stages of looking at it and we are very much looking forward to engaging the Stoney Nakoda on these names,” he said.

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    There's a reason the letter to the Alberta government wasn't written in Stoney Nakoda-ese.

    And there's a reason Calgary is Calgary, Canmore is Canmore, etc.

    It's almost as if there's a common, relevant language... Hmmmm...

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    They’ll probably just give them the changes to random crap no one will notice

    It’s pretty ridiculous though... trying to rename the white man’s fort... if they would of built this city, they could of named it whatever they wanted. History is written by the winners, you can’t just sit on the sidelines for over a hundred years then bitch about it

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    300+ million dollars in ring road money buys a lot of stuff, apparently including lawyers to push forward stupid agenda such as this.

    I've got a traditional gift of blankets made in Madagascar for everyone who supports such dipshit schemes like this.

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    I'm sure everyone is definitely going to call Canmore with their suggested name of: Chuwapchipchiyan Kude Bi...

    Couldn't they have shortened it at least so something easier to say? I think it would at least help their request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e31 View Post
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    300+ million dollars in ring road money buys a lot of stuff, apparently including lawyers to push forward stupid agenda such as this.

    I've got a traditional gift of blankets made in Madagascar for everyone who supports such dipshit schemes like this.
    It started back in 2003. Doesn’t seem like much progress in 14 years other than depleted public money to address it.

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    What scares me the most about all this is that I could actually see council going through with this.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Throughout history, when people were conquered they were either killed, enslaved, or forced to assimilate. That is exactly what the native people were doing to each other before the white man conquered them. Enough of this bullshit lie that they were just peaceful people tiptoeing through the tulips.

    With that said, if they want their heritage and way of life, then let them have it ffs. That means they live in a tent, hunt for food, and are not allowed to use anything that the white man created. That would last about 5 seconds before they proclaimed, "I'm glad the white man came over".

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    What scares me the most about all this is that I could actually see council going through with this.
    Don't think this has anything to do with city council.

    btw - A+ on Similar Threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    What scares me the most about all this is that I could actually see council going through with this.
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    Don't think this has anything to do with city council.

    btw - A+ on Similar Threads.
    Who else would have jurisdiction? I doubt the province is responsible.
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    When you use government and other institutions to segregate people based on genetics and race, and then treat said subgroup like a bunch of toddlers...this is what you get. No one to blame but ourselves.

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    I’ll probably get flamed for this by people that know better than I but although I empathize with the plight of the indigenous people I get frustrated with crap like this. The problem isn’t names of places and getting back the culture they’ve lost. This seems like the agenda of the well off minorities within these bands. The real plight of the average indigenous person is drug and alcohol abuse, lack of education, lack of social programs to rebuild the community. Lack of appropriate allocation of funds to the community and the building of facilities that seem to only benefit a few and fuel further addiction within the community (ie: casinos).

    Those are the problems I see, not the name of a city

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    Now welcoming the Wichispa Oyade ĩ-ktũ...

    Would love to hear other NHL spokesman/vages pronounce that gem
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