I'm starting a club!

[Tha_Shot_Caller]

So, hmmmm, let's see, there's Ferrari, Austin Martin, B.M.W., Mercedes, Lotus, Lambourgini, Porsche, TVR, Audi and on....... Those are basically the world's best producers of cars, now let's see Japanese cars; hmmmm, Honda, oh yeah, that's such a great company, civic's, oh such a work of art, definatly better then any of the cars that any of the european companies make. Wait, i forgot Toyota, another great company. Corolla, now there's your typical super car. Let's stop kidding ourselves here, face the facts, there's a reason why Europe is the center of the automobile world.

[TomTom]

um hello? you are compairing cars that are between 1-10x's as much, a civic and an f40? common theres like a few hundred k$ there i would hope to god it would be a better car. lol

[2000impreza]

honda........ nsx/s2k
toyota........ supra
nissan........ skyline/silvia

just to list a few.

civic/corolla compared to a higher end euro car is like a bmw 318 to a supra.....

[Tha_Shot_Caller]

Originally posted by TomTom
um hello? you are compairing cars that are between 1-10x's as much, a civic and an f40? common theres like a few hundred k$ there i would hope to god it would be a better car. lol

Hmm, thanks for pointing that out, but you know what, we're discussing the superior cars, and i don't think you understand that. I said those were the superior cars, which they are, i'm not compairing prices, I'm saying they are superior. It doesn't have to be fair comparison because for some stupid reason you and your friends seem to think that Japanese cars are superior, and i'm telling you they aren't! Get it?

[Tha_Shot_Caller]

Originally posted by 2000impreza
honda........ nsx/s2k
toyota........ supra
nissan........ skyline/silvia

just to list a few.

civic/corolla compared to a higher end euro car is like a bmw 318 to a supra.....

NSX vs. 911 GT2

Skyline vs. Maranello

Supra vs. Esprit

So you just named the three good cars outta all the japanese cars, and i've name three cars that compete with them. You're outta the good cars, and i've got hundres more, you wanna keep playin this game?

[2000impreza]

Originally posted by Tha_Shot_Caller


NSX vs. 911 GT2

Skyline vs. Maranello

Supra vs. Esprit

So you just named the three good cars outta all the japanese cars, and i've name three cars that compete with them. You're outta the good cars, and i've got hundres more, you wanna keep playin this game?

good job. you have me beat. now give yourself a cookie

[ninjak84]

good grief!
you euro fellas are forgetting alot of things.

fiat, citroen, vectra, and renault all make absolute crap. like i mean, NOTHING good comes out of those garages! sure BMW and mercedes are sweet, but you cant just look at those. broaden your horizons, and prepare for the ugliest cars known to man.

[Strider]

renault's aren't so bad...
fiats, skodas and vectras are hurtbags though

[Stratus_Power]

renault aint bad... yep..fiat.. PoS.. droved one before.. omg.. i would rather drive geo metro

[turkeysilk]

Originally posted by ninjak84
good grief!
you euro fellas are forgetting alot of things.

fiat, citroen, vectra, and renault all make absolute crap. like i mean, NOTHING good comes out of those garages! sure BMW and mercedes are sweet, but you cant just look at those. broaden your horizons, and prepare for the ugliest cars known to man.

Well, on a technical level, Fiat "makes" Ferraris, so I don't think you can say bad things about Fiat and get away with it. While I agree with you about Citroen and Vectra, Renault does make some good automobiles. As far as hatchbacks go, I would say that the Clio is a farely good contender to anyone who wants to challenge. On another level, I don't think you can frown upon Renault in F1 racing, which is a big part of the European car making. I think that 4th is a really good position for them, clearly they will not challenge the big three( all European BTW), so fourth is the best they can do respectively.