Is a stop sign ticket worth fighting?

[Asian_defender]

Got a failure to stop at a stop sign ticket on my way to work this morning.
I guess I must have done a rolling stop and not noticed it. I'll review my dash cam tomorrow
$287 and 3 demerits. Is this worth fighting?

[killramos]

Did you stop?

[Asian_defender]

Might have been a rolling stop, been taking the same route to work for almost a decade now so it could have been an off day for me

[Kloubek]

It's basically your word against his - which means you will likely lose. They'll probably lower the fine as they always do, but doesn't sound like you have much of a defense - despite your user name.

[firebane]

Fight for the demerits..

[Asian_defender]

They never allow you no demerits anymore. I guess I could just go in to ask for a lower fine

[tonytiger55]

Review the dash cam. If you stopped then you have a bent cop and he needs to do some explaining.

If not, possibly turn up and get it reduced.
But time off from work x money saved, sometimes not worth it. Last time I did it, it worked out that I only saved $10. I went to Timmys after and cried into my steeped tea whilst munching on my ham sandwich...

[Xtrema]

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They never allow you no demerits anymore. I guess I could just go in to ask for a lower fine

They can probably change from a 3pt stop sign to 2pt traffic device and give you a lower fine. Gotta spent a few hours to try it tho.

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Review the dash cam. If you stopped then you have a bent cop and he needs to do some explaining.

Meh, officially it's 3s. Nobody stops at a stop sign for 3s.

[revelations]

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Meh, officially it's 3s. Nobody stops at a stop sign for 3s.

Is this what the TSA states?

[blairtruck]

there is no time limit. a stop is a stop. stop for .01 secs is a stop.

[D'z Nutz]

In for Mar thr.... wait a minute.

[dj_patm]

I went to one of those ticket fighting guys for the same ticket in September and he got it cut in half, got rid off all demerits and a extended the deadline to pay until February. I had two other tickets, a tint that he managed to get tossed completely and a failure to provide insurance ticket (my slip was expired by 3 fucking days) that was also cut in half.

Worth every penny.

[Mitsu3000gt]

If dashcam shows you stopped - fight it (if you have the time and the desire to). If you would lose more than the fine by missing work or other obligations, don't bother.

If dashcam shows you rolled, just pay it and try forget about it.

Just my opinion anyway.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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Meh, officially it's 3s. Nobody stops at a stop sign for 3s.

Myth.

[Xtrema]

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Myth.

Guess I fell for it.

http://trafficticketsolutions.ca/stop-sign.php

If you stopped, you stopped. Fight it.

[FraserB]

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Fight for the demerits..

Unless he is looking at a demerit based suspension, there is no point and it’s better to lower the fine. It’s still a conviction, which is what insurance cares about

[Masked Bandit]

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Unless he is looking at a demerit based suspension, there is no point and it’s better to lower the fine. It’s still a conviction, which is what insurance cares about

If he manages to get the demerits completely tossed then it won't show up on his abstract and insurance will never find out.

[FraserB]

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If he manages to get the demerits completely tossed then it won't show up on his abstract and insurance will never find out.

Good to know, figured convictions for non-photo tickets turned up regardless of demerits

[Nufy]

When I did my corporate driver testing the instructor said a stop is complete when you feel the weight of the vehicle shift back. Then it is safe to proceed.

Don't know how it matches with the law though...

Maybe just a rule of thumb...

[Crazyjoker77]

Here is the actual law if anyone cares. Op are you sure you got ticketed for a rolling stop and not stopping to far forward?

Stopping before entering highway
36(1) In this section, “street” means a street within the meaning of
the Highways Development and Protection Act.
(2) A person driving a vehicle that is about to enter
(a) onto a provincial highway or street from a road, service
road, alley or driveway, or
(b) into an alley or onto a road from a driveway,
shall, unless the intersection of the 2 roadways is marked with a
“yield” sign or a “merge” sign, bring the vehicle to a stop
(c) before entering on the intersecting roadway and at a point
no further than 3 metres back from the intersecting
roadway, or
(d) in the case where there is
(i) a marked crosswalk on the near side of the
intersection, immediately before entering on the
crosswalk, or
(ii) a marked stop line on the near side of the
intersection, at the stop line.
(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a person driving a vehicle
(a) that is emerging from an alley or driveway shall
(i) stop the vehicle before driving onto a sidewalk or a
vehicle crossway over a sidewalk, and
(ii) yield the right of way to any pedestrian on the
sidewalk or the vehicle crossway over the sidewalk,
or
(b) that is entering an alley or driveway shall yield the right of
way to any pedestrian on a sidewalk or a vehicle crossway
over a sidewalk.
AR 304/2002 s36;152/2009


Stop signs
37 A person driving a vehicle that is about to enter onto a
highway from another highway that is marked by a “stop” sign
shall bring the vehicle to a stop
(a) before entering on the intersecting roadway and at a point
no further than 3 metres back from the intersecting
roadway, or
(b) in the case where there is
(i) a marked crosswalk on the near side of the
intersection, immediately before entering on the
crosswalk, or
(ii) a marked stop line on the near side of the
intersection, at the stop line.
Proceeding after stopping
38 When a person driving a vehicle is required to stop the vehicle
pursuant to section 36 or 37, that person
(a) shall not cause the vehicle to proceed until the condition
of the traffic on the highway being entered on is such that
the vehicle can enter onto the highway in safety, and
(b) shall yield the right of way to all vehicles and pedestrians
approaching that person’s vehicle and that are on the
highway being entered.