How to deal with rolled back odometer?

[firebane]

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It's an 05.
The odo was rolled back in 2011 from 350 and now is at 229. I am not sure what it was rolled back to. The previous owner said it had 170 when he bought it in 2011

What type of truck GM/Chevy?

[GTR_Auto]

Mileage on new cars is very easy to change all done via OBD2. Especially in the vw / audi world. Couple clicks and someone can make it read what they want. Granted you need the tools to do so but a few thousand for some quality tools and you are good to go!

[soccernut]

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What type of truck GM/Chevy?

Toyota

[spikerS]

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I have never seen anyone successfully do it. Especially with just an off the shelf Ebay tool. For most cars it’s harder than people think. Dealer even requires specific software and in some cases physically replacing chips.

That aside think about it who is going to roll back an old truck from 350k to 228k to make an extra $400? No one....

there, now you have seen it. lol

[Xtrema]

What's end game OP? Isn't the difference in price would be around $2000 or less for 100k difference?

[J-hop]

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It doesn't have any KM readings other than the 3 I have listed in the post above. I am not sure why the mileage would be misconstrued to be in miles on a Canadian truck that has never left Canada.

I do agree that the amount of kms put on the truck is ridiculously high to the point that it's not possible. (24,000 KM in 6 months?). I will get in touch with carproof and see what they have to say about it. I didn't question carproof since they have three records a few years apart all saying similar things.

Trust me happens all the time. Like I said I’ve dealt with this on two vehicles both had never left Alberta.

[J-hop]

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So because you "personally" havent seen anyone roll back a newer vehicle you think its pretty much impossible? I would be willing to bet its as easy as getting a phone unlocked if have a guy who knows what hes doing lol
If the guy rolled it back it wasnt purely for the money(120k is going to be worth more than $400 anyways), it was to help sell the vehicle. I would also bet you op wouldn't have thought twice if the truck was listed with over 300k kms.

I also agree that the mileage doesnt make sense

No meaning, joe blow off the street doesn’t have the equipment, and they certainly aren’t buying it to roll back some old truck.


That aside did people actually look at the mileage and think about it? I’m calling BS on the carproof reported mileage.

[soccernut]

Guys I called carproof and they backed up the numbers. I called the Toyota dealer and it was brought it for service before it went to auction and the kms correlate with the car proof.

I think this leaves no doubt about the roll back on the odometer.

[npham]

I don't know what you gained by figuring out that it was rolled back after the fact. If you did an inspection of the car before the purchase, and found it to be in acceptable condition for the price/mileage, you should be happy that the truck has 'worn' well. If you didn't get an inspection and just gave it the once over in the driveway, then you deserved to get bent over. Live and learn; I honestly don't see why you wouldn't get a CarProof when buying used, it's so quick and easy. Also, there's no way the seller is going to refund the deal, and there's no way you win any sort of small claims court battle either. You need to chalk this up to a 'cheap' lesson since you presumably got a truck you wanted in a condition/price you deemed acceptable.

[soccernut]

I agree that I made a mistake in not covering my bases ahead of the buy. But I believe that he should have disclosed the mileage issues to me as that would make the contract we signed ( bill of sale) illegal.
I have spoken to the police about it and they backed me up on that. I just have to prove that he knew about it.

[dj_rice]

On bill of sale, does it say AS IS?

[soccernut]

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On bill of sale, does it say AS IS?

Yes but
https://www.servicealberta.ca/odometer-fraud.cfm

[Rocket1k78]

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No meaning, joe blow off the street doesn’t have the equipment, and they certainly aren’t buying it to roll back some old truck.

LOL i know its hard to admit you're wrong but cmon man. Sounds like joe blow off the street either has the equipment or more than likely took it to one of the many people that offer this service since op has verified the kms are right. Like i said new or old, rolling back the kms is totally worth it for the shit heads that want to scam.
Soccernut, would you have bought this truck for $500 less than what you paid if the kms were 325k instead of the 225k kms?


Just typed in odometer correction on kijiji and theres a whole list of guys that can do it(im sure they only do it for legit reasons lol) and the first guy can do cars as new as 2017
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-auto-repair-...ationFlag=true

[CompletelyNumb]

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I do agree that the amount of kms put on the truck is ridiculously high to the point that it's not possible. (24,000 KM in 6 months?).

Not only possible, but VERY common on trucks in Alberta. Oil boys do a lot of driving

[soccernut]

@Rocket I would not have bought the truck at all. The truck had 352k in 2011. God knows what the mileage is now.

[redblack]

Your only solution is to stop driving it and take him to small claims, that process can take months so plan accordingly.

[cam_wmh]

So Registry agent just free hand inputs whatever the owner at the time spitballs as their mileage during yearly vehicle registration renewal?

Yeah, I can see typos/inaccurate quotes occurring often if that's the case.

[craigcd]

There is a guy who advertises on Kijiji for mileage correction hahaha

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-auto-repair-...ationFlag=true

Always wondered if this was a CPS bait add, sounds like they don't really care though.

[G-ZUS]

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There is a guy who advertises on Kijiji for mileage correction hahaha

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-auto-repair-...ationFlag=true

Always wondered if this was a CPS bait add, sounds like they don't really care though.

They don't really care, I bought a car years ago that turned out to be rolled back...They told me to take the seller to small claims court lol

Last year, I sold a suv to a guy and he re-listed it a week later with half the mileage. Filed a statement with CPS, "If I happen to be in his area, I will swing by and have a chat with him". Nothing ever came out of it

[Kloubek]

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Your only solution is to stop driving it and take him to small claims, that process can take months so plan accordingly.

This is pretty much it. No third party will be interested in getting involved, so it comes down to a civil matter.