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    So if i understand correctly, this event was cancelled because parents could exploit their kids in public. Isn't is easier now, and previously, to exploit them in private? I mean sure as shit it would be easier to pull something like that off in private

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    Yeah, but... this is like saying people who like comic books are an extremely small minority, and then being shocked at the number of them in a comic book store

    People who like naked kids are going to go to naked kid events, kind of a given

    Of course it works with no drama because the nudist SJW's that are putting it on believe in their cause so strongly that they will just look the other way when questionable things happen



    haha.... nice

    I thought nudists have a big thing about how boners are to be celebrated as a human emotion, like a smile, rather than shamed though?


    I don't know, anywhere that nudity like this with kids has been relaxed, it hasn't gone well historically. For instance:
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/q...0000141-v20n11



    Being an overprotective helicopter parent is not what I advocate for, there is a lot of value in letting kids explore and learn about the world without a safety net... but at the same time, put your unwavering faith in humanity aside and use your fucking head when it comes to what you expose your kids to.
    Luckily critical thinking skills are not a requirement in school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth1968 View Post
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    I'll just post the whole thing again:

    Parents -cough- religionists, generally teach their kids that their body is something to be ashamed of. The reason for this, is they themselves have been brainwashed into believing that our natural state of nakedness equates to sexuality. This idiocy leads to low self body image, promiscuity, low self esteem, drugs, then hell. In contrast, the natralists teach their kids that the body isn't a shameful thing. This leads to the opposite of the above destructive characteristics.

    Yet again, the backwards thinking people have won.

    Canceling a LEGAL event that teaches people (especially kids) not to be ashamed of themselves is fucked up. The naked swim is a liberating event that would prevent so much personal destruction.


    The naked swim issue , can be summarized with these 2 points:

    1) Why are the naturists having the swim? (I already answered that).

    2) Why are some people opposed to it? I already answered that in a general psychological manner, but more specifically, they argue that this nude swim will be "Christmas for pedophiles".

    The pedophile argument fails at so many levels, but here's a few:

    1) Under the age of 18 people must be accompanied by a parent or caregiver.

    2) Unlike public swims, participants have to register with photo ID, and no cameras, etc are allowed.

    3) Kids are often exposed to nakedness in pool change rooms without supervision. Where's the petition about that?

    4) Kids are far more exposed to pedophiles in the church (don't even get me started on that), so where's the crazy lady petition on that?
    Thanks. But I am not a religious man and do not believe that the human body is shameful. I just do not trust my fellow man enough to have little johnny
    see one eyed trouser snakes and sicko' jerking it underneath towels.

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    Lots of people mention that the kids should decide, or that the parents shouldn't decide what their kids do, but what some are forgetting is that it is the parents responsibility to take care of their children and make decisions for them in their best interest until they are old enough to decide for themselves.

    Now most parents do a pretty good job of this most of the time, but you don't need to agree with what another parent decides to do with their children. Now I am talking about as simple of things like soother vs no soother, breast milk vs formula, but to bigger things like public vs catholic vs private vs home schooling, church vs no church, or nude swim vs clothed swim. It is the parents right and responsibility to instill their own values on their children until the children are older. And that age matters for different things. If your 10 year old kid says he doesn't want to go to school anymore are you going to let him? Of course not.

    So with this in mind, I have no issue with a nude swim. I am personally not comfortable with it but I would never try to stop it unless say suddenly my school decided to force it. Although even if I was comfortable with going myself, I wouldn't be comfortable with my children doing this. Mostly because I don't trust other people, but I also feel like I can teach my kids not to be ashamed of their bodies in better ways than by swimming naked with strangers (even just changing in a public change room is better imo) and it is a bit much for them to take in at their young age.

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    I think that being naked in a change room is a totally different situation. Always remember those kids who would try and change underneath the towel without showing the wiener.
    Always thought that seemed unhealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I don't know, anywhere that nudity like this with kids has been relaxed, it hasn't gone well historically. For instance:
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/q...0000141-v20n11

    Being an overprotective helicopter parent is not what I advocate for, there is a lot of value in letting kids explore and learn about the world without a safety net... but at the same time, put your unwavering faith in humanity aside and use your fucking head when it comes to what you expose your kids to.
    What you expose your kids to? Like the sick religious people with fucked up views of sexuality and the delusional parents that leave their kids alone with them? (That's the pathetic story you posted to prove your point, yet it actually proved mine). Thing is, the naturalists are the exact opposite of that mental illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blownz View Post
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    Lots of people mention that the kids should decide, or that the parents shouldn't decide what their kids do, but what some are forgetting is that it is the parents responsibility to take care of their children and make decisions for them in their best interest until they are old enough to decide for themselves.

    Now most parents do a pretty good job of this most of the time, but you don't need to agree with what another parent decides to do with their children. Now I am talking about as simple of things like soother vs no soother, breast milk vs formula, but to bigger things like public vs catholic vs private vs home schooling, church vs no church, or nude swim vs clothed swim. It is the parents right and responsibility to instill their own values on their children until the children are older. And that age matters for different things. If your 10 year old kid says he doesn't want to go to school anymore are you going to let him? Of course not.

    So with this in mind, I have no issue with a nude swim. I am personally not comfortable with it but I would never try to stop it unless say suddenly my school decided to force it. Although even if I was comfortable with going myself, I wouldn't be comfortable with my children doing this. Mostly because I don't trust other people, but I also feel like I can teach my kids not to be ashamed of their bodies in better ways than by swimming naked with strangers (even just changing in a public change room is better imo) and it is a bit much for them to take in at their young age.
    I appreciate that you at least see the intent of this event, while you are not comfortable yourself to go, you are not saying a hard no!
    Originally posted by speedog
    So more beyond armchair activism at work again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalibuStacy View Post
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    I appreciate that you at least see the intent of this event, while you are not comfortable yourself to go, you are not saying a hard no!
    I'd consider going to a nude beach / swim, as I think it would be psychologically liberating.

    Also, apparently the city of Calgary didn't stop this LEGAL event because of the ludicrous arguments against it. Heck, nude swims (even in Calgary) and nude beaches have been a thing for decades. They stopped it because of violent threats from the crazy people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth1968 View Post
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    I'd consider going to a nude beach / swim, as I think it would be psychologically liberating.

    Also, apparently the city of Calgary didn't stop this LEGAL event because of the ludicrous arguments against it. Heck, nude swims and nude beaches have been a thing for decades. They stopped it because of violent threats from the crazy people.
    Yup, they were concerned for the organizers were in danger from craziez
    Originally posted by speedog
    So more beyond armchair activism at work again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalibuStacy View Post
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    Yup, they were concerned for the organizers were in danger from craziez
    Nenshi nailed it:

    This is really about mob rule … Some of the folks, both online and in phone calls to city staff and to public servants, were threatening some really unpleasant stuff. There was a bomb threat. There were people who were saying, ‘we’re going to write down all the license plate numbers and post them as pedophiles.

    I’m really, really disappointed in the city administration’s decision on this one, for exactly that reason,” the mayor said in response to a caller who phoned in and told Nenshi, “it just seems like you’re allowing fear and threats of violence to control our lives.”
    What a stupid and needless position the council found themselves in. But as Nenshi said, "mob rule". AKA the idiots rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestalt View Post
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    You know how, when someone is incredibly opposed to and almost obsessively vocal about a topic, it's often actually due to their own personal guilt obsession that they haven't been able to personally come to terms with? Think the highly anti gay politician who ultimately gets outed for example. Gestalt here sure seems to have a hard on for pedophiles......

    Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSC00LUDE View Post
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    You know how, when someone is incredibly opposed to and almost obsessively vocal about a topic, it's often actually due to their own personal guilt obsession that they haven't been able to personally come to terms with? Think the highly anti gay politician who ultimately gets outed for example. Gestalt here sure seems to have a hard on for pedophiles......

    Just sayin'.
    Yep, that's that's what I've been tying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSC00LUDE View Post
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    You know how, when someone is incredibly opposed to and almost obsessively vocal about a topic, it's often actually due to their own personal guilt obsession that they haven't been able to personally come to terms with? Think the highly anti gay politician who ultimately gets outed for example. Gestalt here sure seems to have a hard on for pedophiles......

    Just sayin'.
    Yea I’m a bit confused why those who aren’t focused on the sexual side are being called the ‘perverts’ while gestalt who focuses exclusively on the sexual side isn’t?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallowed_point View Post
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    I think that being naked in a change room is a totally different situation. Always remember those kids who would try and change underneath the towel without showing the wiener.
    Always thought that seemed unhealthy.
    I still do that and I'm pretty healthy lol I feel like they've been known as "private parts" for as long as we have all been alive and we've always been taught to be covered up.

    I do this and have taught my kid to do this as well because really, who the fuck wants to see someone else's junk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03ozwhip View Post
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    I still do that and I'm pretty healthy lol I feel like they've been known as "private parts" for as long as we have all been alive and we've always been taught to be covered up.

    I do this and have taught my kid to do this as well because really, who the fuck wants to see someone else's junk?
    Only really in North American culture though. Travel to Europe and people aren’t like us when it comes to taboo view of the human body. It’s a cultural thing not a genetically driven desire to cover up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallowed_point View Post
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    Always remember those kids who would try and change underneath the towel without showing the wiener.
    Wait. What?

    Do you also remember those kids who did the opposite?

    I like neat cars.

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    Having spent a large portion of my life utilizing a locker room, i don't have much shame. That being said, i am not standing there striking up a conversation and prolonging the dressing process. Just like anything, there are extremes on both ends. One thing i do not pay attention to is who is using a towel to cover up and who is not

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03ozwhip View Post
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    I still do that and I'm pretty healthy lol I feel like they've been known as "private parts" for as long as we have all been alive and we've always been taught to be covered up.

    I do this and have taught my kid to do this as well because really, who the fuck wants to see someone else's junk?
    Yet 99% of men watch porn. Oh the irony!

    Meh, I like to see how I stack up lol . See junior? Could be worse, you could have a tiny one like that!!

    Now walking around rubbing your sack while talking to everyone is taking it too far imo. No one likes those guys haha.
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