Shaw Layoffs ?

[bjstare]

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yeah, very true. but at least worst case scenario EI is in place if you get nothing. I know plenty of people (lack of ambition or economy is that rough) who have been out of work >2 years

That's almost definitely by choice, whether they admit it or not.

Everyone I know of that has been out of work for that long is only out of work because they refuse to work jobs that are "below them" or out of their field. Sheer stupidity, IMO.

[Xtrema]

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but if you are getting 2 years of severance it is going to take a long ass time to qualify for ei.

Well I am sure some 50 something who take this deal may need it.

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That's almost definitely by choice, whether they admit it or not.

Everyone I know of that has been out of work for that long is only out of work because they refuse to work jobs that are "below them" or out of their field. Sheer stupidity, IMO.

Some truth to that. But if I'm over 55, this could run me to 58 and 59 and just one short for early CPP, so why bother looking for work.

[HiTempguy1]

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yeah, very true. but at least worst case scenario EI is in place if you get nothing. I know plenty of people (lack of ambition or economy is that rough) who have been out of work >2 years

Man, if I remotely thought of being out of work for 2+ years, I'd be back in school asap. No excuse. Or switching careers. Or moving.

Just... something. Anything. Sitting around for 2 years destroys your motivation, hell, I feel unmotivated after a lazy weekend haha.

[Hallowed_point]

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Man, if I remotely thought of being out of work for 2+ years, I'd be back in school asap. No excuse. Or switching careers. Or moving.

Just... something. Anything. Sitting around for 2 years destroys your motivation, hell, I feel unmotivated after a lazy weekend haha.

110% same here. I've luckily never had that issue, but sitting around at home gets boring and expensive - fast.

[Asian_defender]

Most of my colleagues are taking it. Especially the ones with 10+ years here.
They have been very fair with the packages

[nzwasp]

So the package that some are offered is just 1 month per year. If you have only worked for the company for 1 year or less why would you give up a job for only 1 month of severance. I expect newer employees to stay unless they think they can get a job straight away or their spouses dont mind supporting them for a long time

[98type_r]

They're offering 6 months, plus 1 month per year of service. So a 1 year employee would get 7 months

[Xtrema]

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So the package that some are offered is just 1 month per year. If you have only worked for the company for 1 year or less why would you give up a job for only 1 month of severance. I expect newer employees to stay unless they think they can get a job straight away or their spouses dont mind supporting them for a long time

This is designed to get rid of high salary staff that probably retained pre-recession wages. Even at 7 months, there very little reason for someone to take that especially if they are hired at recession wages just a year ago.

[ExtraSlow]

Absolutely aimed at long term staff.

[nzwasp]

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They're offering 6 months, plus 1 month per year of service. So a 1 year employee would get 7 months

I dont think they are offering that too all. The guy we know only got offered one year there was no 6 months + 1 month for each year deal for him.

[jwslam]

https://mobilesyrup.com/2018/02/05/s...ampaign=buffer

[88CRX]

Too many people are accepting the offer now! hahahah

Targeted 10%, sounds like more then 25% have accepted and now they're asking people to reconsider. Amazing.

[Xtrema]

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Too many people are accepting the offer now! hahahah

Targeted 10%, sounds like more then 25% have accepted and now they're asking people to reconsider. Amazing.

I thought the 25% was just hearsay from mobilesyrup from a small sample size.

They are going to lose good people over this. Especially people with connections. Probably why Freedom Mobile got major network problems yesterday.

Don't know why they don't just offer this package for a more selected group, like people with over 15 year of service or something.

[spikerS]

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Don't know why they don't just offer this package for a more selected group, like people with over 15 year of service or something.

If they are going to offer it to 1 person in a department, they have to offer it to all the people in that department. At least that was the way it was explained to me when TELUS did something similar 2 years ago.

[HiTempguy1]

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If they are going to offer it to 1 person in a department, they have to offer it to all the people in that department. At least that was the way it was explained to me when TELUS did something similar 2 years ago.

If you target people to layoff, its not a layoff, you are firing them, even if there is severance. If you say they could quit and be offered severance, that's constructive dismissal AFAIK. And then you don't qualify for EI.

http://www.thirdquarter.ca/news/read...saving-layoffs

There’s another serious risk to laying off long-term employees: wrongful dismissal lawsuits. “You can’t discriminate against somebody on the basis of age,” says Doug MacLeod, an employment and labour lawyer with MacLeod Law Firm, based in Toronto. “There are some cases where human rights abdicators have concluded that employers who terminate older people are doing so on the assumption the longer you work there, the higher your salary and pension costs are going to be, and they have concluded that that kind of reason for termination is age discrimination under human rights legislation.”

[suntan]

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If you target people to layoff, its not a layoff, you are firing them, even if there is severance.

I'd like to see proof of this. We've done this a few times and Service Canada has always provided EI coverage for those employees. They even phoned us once and asked, and they were fine with our response.

[HiTempguy1]

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I'd like to see proof of this. We've done this a few times and Service Canada has always provided EI coverage for those employees. They even phoned us once and asked, and they were fine with our response.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-...isconduct.html



Employment law is complicated in Canada. I don't know your situations, and I only know what I've read/looked into as I like to be informed on what options I have in the case of an aggressive employer.

[D'z Nutz]

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I thought the 25% was just hearsay from mobilesyrup from a small sample size.

They're just quoting what they've been told by what Shaw employees are hearing. We just interviewed a Shaw employee for a position here at work and he said in his area it's a lot higher than that.

[suntan]

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https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-...isconduct.html



Employment law is complicated in Canada. I don't know your situations, and I only know what I've read/looked into as I like to be informed on what options I have in the case of an aggressive employer.

None of those things have anything to do with "targeted layoffs" (whatever the hell that means).

[Kloubek]

How the heck does one remain on EI for 2 years. They even put out that long? I thought the limit was like... 9 months or something.