The US of A Shooting Mega-Thread

[tirebob]

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I've done this here on multiple occasions as well though?
Difference is I am buying non restricted firearms (shotguns usually), but its literally a conversation with said friend "Hey I want to sell XXXX shotgun" and its done.
No paperwork.

I agree with you the mental aspect of American's vs Canadians, but I genuinely believe someone deranged is looking for convenience. We also have much greater access to support than they do in the US.

Is a fundamental problem in the States, but I genuinely believe better gun control legislation will SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the rate of mass shootings in the US.

Except for all the crazy fuckers with 10,000 guns already in their basement, or the unfathomable numbers of compound militia dwellers who are waiting for this shit so they have a perceived excuse to go and kill everyone en-masse who wants to take away their rights... I think your end result will be worse. A case of the cure is worse than the disease scenario if you will.

I can absolutely see where you are coming from in a relatively rational population, but I honestly think you underestimate how hardcore the American population overall is in this regard. It will not go as hoped.

[msommers]

America is such an interesting place. They value freedom and personal choice, like buying a semi-automatic rifle and open-carry laws, but abortion is something they want a mulligan on.

[tirebob]

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America is such an interesting place. They value freedom and personal choice, like buying a semi-automatic rifle and open-carry laws, but abortion is something they want a mulligan on.

Certainly no shortage of hypocrisy all over to be sure.

[msommers]

The caveat: It's what Jesus wants.

[ZenOps]

I'd bet anything that a few truckloads of Javelin missiles will not make it to Ukraine and instead find their way into Petroleum factories in the USA.

If you fill up a warehouse with firecrackers, it only takes one match to go up in a mighty conflagration.

If you are going to let everyone carry and point AR-15's, might as well just let everyone carry a Javelin.

[ZenOps]

Closet USA believes that they need to be armed with every citizen having a nuke (or 2,000 bullets) to prevent Future Britain from invading and taking back the USA? These people do exist, and they are not as small a fringe group as they might seem.

[Buster]

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America is such an interesting place. They value freedom and personal choice, like buying a semi-automatic rifle and open-carry laws, but abortion is something they want a mulligan on.

Both issues are complex.

Abortion is a vastly more complex issue than people give it credit for.

[redline]

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If bullets don't kill you then heart disease will. 300,000 Americas die every year from obesity related illnesses, while the number who die from guns is 45,000. What's the real problem with the system?

are you really that stupid?

My kid is not at risk of a heart attack at school cause your fat ass cant stop going to Mcdonalds ...


Obesity is a problem and should be addressed but it is a me problem not a we problem so not even in the same league.

[redline]

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Both issues are complex.

Abortion is a vastly more complex issue than people give it credit for.

its not that complex , if its not your body... its not your choice

[killramos]

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its not that complex , if its not your body... its not your choice

What happens when choices about your body affect someone else’s body?

I don’t actually give a fuck. But pretending the issue is a simple one is just naive.

[redline]

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I agree with you the mental aspect of American's vs Canadians, but I genuinely believe someone deranged is looking for convenience. We also have much greater access to support than they do in the US.

Is a fundamental problem in the States, but I genuinely believe better gun control legislation will SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the rate of mass shootings in the US.

What is better about mental health support CDN vs USA? I dont see much of a difference... both are not adequate in any light.

The US definitely needs better gun control and Canada needs better laws on gun crime, we got the control part done if not over done, now time work on the crime.

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What happens when choices about your body affect someone else’s body?

I don’t actually give a fuck. But pretending the issue is a simple one is just naive.

what happens after the kid is born? ... parents make decisions just as it is before they are born... just because you dont agree does not mean you get a say in what happens

[ExtraSlow]

Great, now this is the abortion thread.

[DonJuan]

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Both issues are complex.

Abortion is a vastly more complex issue than people give it credit for.

As redline said, it really isn't. Someone else's religious views shouldn't be forced on another. I'm getting off topic here but until the "life" is able to exist outside the mother it's her choice. Docs say first trimester, that's good enough for me. Other side of the coin, are the same people who want to ban abortion also willing to help support the child if the mother is not able to? What to do with people who get illegal abortions? or have health issues from having botched abortions?

Update:
Tuned into the Governor's speech. He's pushing the lack of access to mental health facility, but not the need for a mental health check up before purchasing firearm.

[Tik-Tok]

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Great, now this is the abortion thread.

Gun debate, throw in some abortion, add some covid. Baby, you've got a stew going.

[ExtraSlow]

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[killramos]

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what happens after the kid is born? ... parents make decisions just as it is before they are born... just because you dont agree does not mean you get a say in what happens

Do you think parents are allowed to make decisions to off their kids after they are born? You know. Just as it is.

Rock solid analogy there. Just because you have a simple mind, does not mean the issue is simple.

[ExtraSlow]

I don't think I have a moral or professional insight that makes my opinion on abortion valuable to the debate. I think primarily this is a discussion that should be lead by women.

[killramos]

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I don't think I have a moral or professional insight that makes my opinion on abortion valuable to the debate. I think primarily this is a discussion that should be lead by women.

Who is debating abortion? I’m pointing out that redline is an idiot for arguing the issue isn’t complex.

[Tik-Tok]

Can we just get an abortion mega thread already? Maybe find some group discounts to put in there.

[killramos]

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Can we just get an abortion mega thread already? Maybe find some group discounts to put in there.

Group buy maybe? Or a sunshine card?