Recommend a Deerfoot commuter car

[Strider]

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Xtrema pretty much killed it here. Just the other day we took my wife's car around for the day - me driving all day in sport mode, minus 18 temps, mix of city and highway, and I averaged 11.8L/100km. Highly efficient for a 300+ hp AWD SUV lugging a whole family and gear.

I honestly don't understand how you are even considering a Juke though. It is worse in every metric. You're comparing a luxury mid-sized high HP SUV to a compact econobox. It's not even cheap in terms of TCO; Nissans are bullshit for depreciation, especially junky little ones. Am I missing something here??

Not really missing anything... the X3 is efficient for what it is, but a compact econobox is just better at being an econobox, which is what longer commutes call for. If I can pick up a Juke or something similar for $12-$14k, then I'd imagine the depreciation curve is pretty shallow at that point. Putting less miles on the X3 also delays the need to upgrade to a newer one (which will have even steeper depreciation) for fear of devastating maintenance bills after 100k km.

There's gotta be other options aside from Subarus and Jukes...
Something without CVT?
The CX-3 sounds great on paper, but they're too new and therefore still high on the depreciation curve.
Thought maybe an IS250 for legendary Lexus resale, but the fuel economy isn't great and they're still pretty pricey.

[Xtrema]

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There's gotta be other options aside from Subarus and Jukes...
Something without CVT?
The CX-3 sounds great on paper, but they're too new and therefore still high on the depreciation curve.
Thought maybe an IS250 for legendary Lexus resale, but the fuel economy isn't great and they're still pretty pricey.

All fuel efficient, low operating cost, low depreciation, AWD auto SUV has all switched to CVT. And I also don't recall any AWD sedan in this class either. Subarus basically got all the AWD market covered in this class.

The Korean twin, Sportage and Tucson comes to mind that may fit your criteria and may have all the depreciation set in used.

Fuel economy with any AWD won't be as fuel efficient as FWD. Everything in this class is in the range of 9L/100km average. Other than the CVT, the Juke drives very well, especially you can find one with torque vector AWD. The cheapest car you can get that.

[relyt92]

If you were still doing it, Volvo S60 AWD. Would be a super safe and comfortable highway car.

[Xtrema]

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If you were still doing it, Volvo S60 AWD. Would be a super safe and comfortable highway car.

But on paper, it has the same fuel economy as his X3 and probably need premium.

[jwslam]

My 65 year old mother rocks a 2013 Soul on studded tires.

-the studs make it invincible. Similar to the @ExtraSlow raved-about Fit.
-Short like the Juke, sits a bit higher than a car, and is short for parking, though my mother still managed to put a significant amount of damage to it.
-Super roomy for passengers with the full height headroom, whereas when we went to see the Juke the same year I was rubbing the headliner in the back seat due to the sloped roof and moonroof option. According to the below link it's like 3 inches more in the back for headroom.
-Zero trunk space though
-Not AWD unfortunately
-Has the CVT
-Averages around 9ishL/100km. I got it down to 5.5 one time hypermiling home from Banff lol.
-The depreciation curve is so steep you won't need to pay in the teens for one.

https://www.thecarconnection.com/car...ssan_juke_2013

[Tik-Tok]

This thread feels so... Mar.

[mzdspd]

If your main concern is mileage and resale value.. Why don't you just buy a used prius.. Amazing mileage, cheap to run, reliable and holds resale well.. Prime example..

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/...ationFlag=true

[never]

I just want to know if 20 km can really be considered a longer commute...especially in Calgary??

[faiz999]

the answer was already given, subaru.

unless u wanna ball out and say fuck deprecation by coppin a durango srt....

[Strider]

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-Not AWD unfortunately

Not AWD would open the door to a lot of better options. Would probably go Civic or Corolla in that case.

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If your main concern is mileage and resale value.. Why don't you just buy a used prius.. Amazing mileage, cheap to run, reliable and holds resale well.. Prime example..

8 year old battery scares me

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I just want to know when 20 km could be considered a longer commute??

20km is long for someone who's used to 3.5km and 10 minutes door to door. Plus Deerfoot seems to take a toll on cars from rush hour stop and go to rock chips and cracked windshields.

[Hallowed_point]

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I just want to know if 20 km can really be considered a longer commute...especially in Calgary??

20 km is not a long commute at all imo.

[MalibuStacy]

It looks less like the OP is concerned with saving money, but more with saving his BMW from the ravages of Deerfoot. I don't see a huge issue with that, but stop saying you are trying o save money, because that just won't happen while owning 2 cars...

If you are looking to purchase a commuter, go small and practical.

Ford Focus
Honda Civic
Toyota Corolla
Kia Soul (Really cheap to own)
Dodge Dart

I don't really like the current chevy cruze

Basically you might be baller, but if you want to save your beemer and not spend a bunch of cash buy one of the above used.

[NissanFanBoy]

Wanted to point out two more plus points for the Juke:

-it actually lets you switch from front wheel drive to "AWD-V" and full time AWD
-SL trims also let you choose Eco mode, normal, and Sport
-also being super light and 188 hp it will blow the doors off any Subaru you're looking at besides the STIs or turbo Foresters.... Both the Imprezas and CX3s you're looking at are known to be dogshit slow, a big factor if you're wife isn't a very good DF merger...

[Hallowed_point]

Whatever you do, do NOT get a Dodge "Dart." Garbage economy cars.

[MalibuStacy]

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Whatever you do, do NOT get a Dodge "Dart." Garbage economy cars.

I thought they'd would get a mention, not necessarily saying they are good...

[VTEXTC]

I commute about 90 kms a day, 5 days a week. While I have "nicer" vehicles in the fleet to choose from, there is no way that I would subject them to the holy hell that is Deerfoot and Stony Trails day in and day out. As a result, we've owned two used CRVs over the last 14 years, which have served us well in daily duty. Utility enough for trips to Home Depot, cheap enough for fuel/maintenance and repairs, and consumables such as tires, brakes and windshields are cheap as well. I don't even blink at the kids sloshing around with the snow and mud from winter boots and all the joy that our winter climate has to offer.

Buy the right CRV used, and they depreciate hardly at all, if maintained well and looked after.

[never]

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20km is long for someone who's used to 3.5km and 10 minutes door to door. Plus Deerfoot seems to take a toll on cars from rush hour stop and go to rock chips and cracked windshields.

Granted, it is an increase in commute distance and time but it's still not very far. In post 41, you mentioned the longer commute is where an econobox is needed. But at a 40 km round trip per day, even if you drive that distance 365 days a year, you're still under 15,000 km for the year. Work only mileage would be 10,400 km annually, assuming no sick time, vacations or stats. Still low mileage and like others have mentioned, you likely won't see much benefit buying another "cheaper" vehicle if you're trying to save money. But saving wear and tear on a nicer vehicle is understandable.

[Brent.ff]

Saw an Aventador today on Blackfoot..seems like a solid winter choice to me

[never]

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Saw an Aventador today on Blackfoot..seems like a solid winter choice to me

AWD...can't go wrong.

[NissanFanBoy]

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AWD...can't go wrong.

Ya but do they come in manual though? Otherwise it's a deal breaker for me ☺