Impark Loss Prevention Specialist

[Swank]

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Wasn't expecting it to be such a shit show.

Aw c'mon, you're not that new here, there are 44 threads with Impark just in the title, it's definitely one of Beyond's triggers. Other gem topics include tipping, speed limits/enforcement, gun laws, and Nenshi.

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I'd argue 99% of people are no less guilty or "stealing" from a corporation in some form. Whether it be streaming or vpns or "US Netflix" or torrenting or Microsoft Office licenses. Everyone is so quick to make judgement but justifies their own behavior. Throwing out entitlement, yet not realizing each one of you have their own sense of entitlement on another issue, but whatever makes you feel like you are all role models.

That's crazy that they're stalking you now, you really shit in their chili

[ExtraSlow]

All these little things you never learn when you pay for parking. Thanks for the education.

[FraserB]

How many unpaid tickets do you need to rack up that CPA is willing to camp out for hours and then follow you to make sure don’t go into another Impark lot?

It has to be in the thousands of dollars worth, don’t see it being worth their time otherwise.

[ickyflex]

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How many unpaid tickets do you need to rack up that CPA is willing to camp out for hours and then follow you to make sure don’t go into another Impark lot?

It has to be in the thousands of dollars worth, don’t see it being worth their time otherwise.

New Car/License Plate since May 2016

[FraserB]

Seems like an excessive response. Did you ever have words with the attendant?

They seem unreasonably pissed off

[ickyflex]

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Seems like an excessive response. Did you ever have words with the attendant?

They seem unreasonably pissed off

Arguably depends if my new car/plate/address is tied to my old car/plate/address? Otherwise, on 3/28/18 I avoided their tow by luck of just going out for lunch before the tow truck came

Honestly, could just be trying to get the word out they on crack down for anyone really. I've seen many more tows out of the lots as of recently when walking to/from work and lunch

[G-ZUS]

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CPA needs to ticket for trespassing before they can tow your vehicle.

Each Impark attendant has a CPA guy on speed dial

More ticket revenue for CPA

[ercchry]

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How many unpaid tickets do you need to rack up that CPA is willing to camp out for hours and then follow you to make sure don’t go into another Impark lot?

It has to be in the thousands of dollars worth, don’t see it being worth their time otherwise.

What is CPA’s time really worth with how easy technology has made their jobs?

[sexualbanana]

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What's your point? Just because there are signs doesn't mean they have any legal bearing. I can throw a bunch of signs on private property that say that the parking fee is a case of beer. It doesn't mean shit.

You can get them for trespassing on your property and have them towed if they don't give you a case of beer. The rules are pretty black and white. The grey area is in the enforcement of the rules. You could choose to enforce the beer rule or you could choose not to. If your entire livelihood was dependent on receiving cases of beer, you'd want to enforce the rules, wouldn't you?

[spikerS]

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Update:
- Calgary Parking Authority & Impark was waiting at my car right up until expiry of my "paid" parking yesterday.
- Calgary Parking Authority followed me until I was out of downtown yesterday (stopping twice behind me when i picked up friends on the way out of the core)
- Same Calgary Parking Authority & Impark about 20 minutes left on my parking are there right now waiting to see if I move (literally just standing there, which I can see from the meeting room i'm in)

I wonder if these tactics could be construed as harassment?

[Gestalt]

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I wonder if these tactics could be construed as harassment?

I dont know about on their parking lot. But if you tell them to fuck off and they are following you around downtown thats criminal harrasment

[gwill]

Cpa has no authority on a private lot so it is weird they are hanging out at all. Cpa tickets are different then the invoices you get from diamond or impark. You have to pay cpa.

Any private lot will have a specific tow company who will tow. A random tow truck cant just show up to tow a vehicle

While people are debating legalities of parking on a private lot why not debate the legalities of what these companies can or can't do??? It's within everyones right to know yet the rules are not common knowledge.

[spikerS]

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Cpa has no authority on a private lot so it is weird they are hanging out at all. Cpa tickets are different then the invoices you get from diamond or impark. You have to pay cpa.

Any private lot will have a specific tow company who will tow. A random tow truck cant just show up to tow a vehicle

While people are debating legalities of parking on a private lot why not debate the legalities of what these companies can or can't do??? It's within everyones right to know yet the rules are not common knowledge.

That isn't true at all. Any authorized person can contact CPA and have them attend and ticket and/or tow a vehicle on private property. This also applies to street parking. So if the Impark guys have a hard on for the guy, they can call the CPA and have them come out to ticket and tow on the spot.

[speedog]

This should be as simple as just paying for parking in the lot one is in but apparently it is not.

[know1edge]

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[ReflexFX]

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You can get them for trespassing on your property and have them towed if they don't give you a case of beer. The rules are pretty black and white. The grey area is in the enforcement of the rules. You could choose to enforce the beer rule or you could choose not to. If your entire livelihood was dependent on receiving cases of beer, you'd want to enforce the rules, wouldn't you?

Yes, they can have the CPA come and tow/ticket you for trespassing on private property as per City of Calgary Traffic Bylaw Section 28(1). That's because you did not purchase a ticket which acts as the property owners consent to having you on their property for the allotted time. That's the only recourse the private property owner has. There is no grey area or ambiguity of enforcement. To have CPA come tow/ticket on private property, they must be contacted.

They cannot reinforce any ticket payments, regardless of whatever sign is posted, because again, they have no legal bearing. What if instead you posted up signs for a million bucks? Obviously I'm exaggerating, but there is no context for the government to support or enforce whatever "rules" some parking lot owner dreamed up.

[killramos]

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How? a plate change can be attributed to a new plate or a new owner

Feel free to discuss that with them after they impound your red flagged car lol

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[sexualbanana]

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Yes, they can have the CPA come and tow/ticket you for trespassing on private property as per City of Calgary Traffic Bylaw Section 28(1). That's because you did not purchase a ticket which acts as the property owners consent to having you on their property for the allotted time. That's the only recourse the private property owner has. There is no grey area or ambiguity of enforcement. To have CPA come tow/ticket on private property, they must be contacted.

They cannot reinforce any ticket payments, regardless of whatever sign is posted, because again, they have no legal bearing. What if instead you posted up signs for a million bucks? Obviously I'm exaggerating, but there is no context for the government to support or enforce whatever "rules" some parking lot owner dreamed up.

Your example extends into a lot of other areas that are completely irrelevant to this argument.

Parking is a service provided by the landowner and administered by Vinci, Impark, et al. So the question is: what can service companies legally do to ensure that they are compensated for their service (the ethics of their business practice not withstanding)? benyl's argument, which I'm in agreement with, is that Impark's method of using staff to trap cars until they pay is basically the same as parking lots that use barrier arms that only users to leave after payment has been confirmed/received.

The caveat to this is that I don't think the parking companies are able to do this to retroactively enforce past incidences; ie. accumulated tickets. And can only enforce payment for the current parking situation. Even then, the case is kind of thin because then you'd have to admit to parking without payment in those prior instances and I think that can open up a much bigger can of worms from a financial standpoint, depending on how aggressively they (the parking companies) would want to pursue.

[gwill]

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Feel free to discuss that with them after they impound your red flagged car lol

cpa cant enforce tickets from a private yard as there is no legal grounds for these tickets to begin with. These tickets are essentially invoices with no legal basis for people to pay.

Cpa cant do anything with these unpaid tickets... perhaps towing is a bit different.

It's weird impark would call cpa when they have a dedicated towing team.