Careless Driving Ticket

[Sentry]

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Anyway we are pretty sure she’s fucked because she called us while we were having dinner and told us that she crashed her car today

Ai yahhhhhhh

[nzwasp]

Well her idea of a crash and mine are completely different the damage was a 2cm scratch no dent and a bunch of bumper rubbed on her door which i cleaned off with water and a rag. So we will still pursue the ticket reduction if she was infact not entirely at fault, will be interesting to see what the cops have to say although i have no idea how those ticket fighting people manage to get lesser demerits.

[bignerd]

Contact the Crown and request disclosure. You will get the notes the cop took that they don't include with the ticket plus any other evidence.

[revelations]

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Well her idea of a crash and mine are completely different the damage was a 2cm scratch no dent and a bunch of bumper rubbed on her door which i cleaned off with water and a rag. So we will still pursue the ticket reduction if she was infact not entirely at fault, will be interesting to see what the cops have to say although i have no idea how those ticket fighting people manage to get lesser demerits.

They dont do anything unusual. They just go to the crown and ask for a reduction - for various reasons.

[vengie]

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Well her idea of a crash and mine are completely different the damage was a 2cm scratch no dent and a bunch of bumper rubbed on her door which i cleaned off with water and a rag. So we will still pursue the ticket reduction if she was infact not entirely at fault, will be interesting to see what the cops have to say although i have no idea how those ticket fighting people manage to get lesser demerits.

... Please tell me the owner of the vehicle she hit is aware their vehicle was hit and your MIL provided all of her insurance information to cover the damage she caused.

[CUG]

All the veiled barbs aside regarding stereotypes, is there a chance she would consider some remedial driving classes? Might be as simple as forming some higher self-awareness habits and situational awareness. Safety is the key here, not her nationality, gender, or whatever stereotypes are being brought up in this thread. If it were me, I would hunt out a quality driver ed program that spoke Chinese. I'd also probably urge my mother to learn a bit of rudimentary English. I hope it works out for the best for you.

[benyl]

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Would your opinion apply to your own parents if you were in our situation

Yup. We took away my Grand Father's license and sold his car when he was in his 80s. He was a danger to everyone including himself.

Careless driving is a “strict liability offence” and the standard of proof for careless driving under the Highway Traffic Act is easier for the Crown to prove. Strict liability means there is no element of criminal intent. The Crown prosecutor must only prove you did the act that is dangerous to the public. In your defence, you must prove that your driving did not amount to careless driving in the circumstances or that you were acting with due diligence at the time. For example, if you were trying to light a cigarette and you swerved onto the wrong side of the road, the Court would have to decide whether a reasonable driver would swerve out of his lane of traffic to light a cigarette. If the Court decides that a reasonable driver would not have swerved, then you may be convicted of careless driving.

http://clg.ab.ca/programs-services/d...iving-offence/

I don't know if it is a good idea to take the above as advice as they can't even spell "defense" correctly. Was your MIL smoking?

[Rocket1k78]

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Can't you get the disclosure without even having to go to court, just so you know what the cop saw before he ticketed her?

Yep but you have to go to the courts first and then they'll call you when its ready which is about 2-3 weeks.

[gretz]

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Well her idea of a crash and mine are completely different the damage was a 2cm scratch no dent and a bunch of bumper rubbed on her door which i cleaned off with water and a rag. So we will still pursue the ticket reduction if she was infact not entirely at fault, will be interesting to see what the cops have to say although i have no idea how those ticket fighting people manage to get lesser demerits.

She had a careless driving ticket... You wonder how it's possible
she has a minor "accident"... You want her head checked / get her off the road
her accident was "very minor"... Ah, her heads ok, i need to understand how the officer has a leg to stand on

Get her off the road before the next "accident"

[dandia89]

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How the hell does someone drive in a country for 10 years and still not understand English.
That’s actually amazing to me, and to be honest, a big problem.

This is common in so many pockets of calgary. foreigners who live within their community, and typically older grandparents who need to move closer to their kids because they can't take care of themselves. I lived by china town and my gf had to do a census for china town. 60-70% refused to talk to her since she isn't chinese, and doesn't speak chinese. I guarantee the NE is full of indians who can barely speak english too

[nzwasp]

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... Please tell me the owner of the vehicle she hit is aware their vehicle was hit and your MIL provided all of her insurance information to cover the damage she caused.

It was her friend at work. And no damage to the other car that Im told. Dont think she would of known how to even exchange her info.

[killramos]

What parts of the city does she usually drive in?

I would personally like to avoid them.

How many red flags do you need before you stop giving her the benefit of the doubt? For the rest of the cities sake.

[lasimmon]

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It was her friend at work. And no damage to the other car that Im told. Dont think she would of known how to even exchange her info.

Wow.

[ganesh]

How did she pass the drivers exam if she can't speak a single word of English?

[speedog]

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How did she pass the drivers exam if she can't speak a single word of English?

Alberta has no written test for a class 5. The class 5 GDL written test is offered in 25 different languages.

[vengie]

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This is common in so many pockets of calgary. foreigners who live within their community, and typically older grandparents who need to move closer to their kids because they can't take care of themselves. I lived by china town and my gf had to do a census for china town. 60-70% refused to talk to her since she isn't chinese, and doesn't speak chinese. I guarantee the NE is full of indians who can barely speak english too

And this blows my mind!
Even when travelling I can "get by" with english, very broken french and spanish, but if I physically LIVED in any of the area's I have traveled I would make it a PRIORITY to learn the local language.
Even from just a social standpoint.

I find it sad people segregate themselves to this extent.

[ganesh]

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Alberta has no written test for a class 5. The class 5 GDL written test is offered in 25 different languages.

I meant how did she pass the road test? Isn't that only in English or french?

[killramos]

I don’t even think my road tests were in English.

[FraserB]

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Alberta has no written test for a class 5. The class 5 GDL written test is offered in 25 different languages.

She would still have had to take direction from the examiner on the road test.

License testing is one of those things that should be offered in two languages, English and French. Road signs are in either of the two official languages, if you can't speak and read one of the two, then you should not be on the road where signs and warnings are given in either of those two.

The problem is that then people like OP's mom would just do what already goes on, pay one of the various crooked registries to just rubber stamp it.

[nzwasp]

I imagine that you can do the road test in chinese. I remember back in 2008 there was a scandal that places in china town were taking money and just handing over a passed road test without people actually doing it. I am not sure how or when she passed to be honest. Prob some time in the 80s. And this is in Edmonton. A friend of mine suggested that I go for a drive with her driving and see how she does.