Pay as you throw black bins

[dirtsniffer]

There really needs to be a politician every couple decades to really come in and clean house. The bloat and waste that accumulates is ridiculous.

[ShermanEF9]

meanwhile in Edmonton i still throw bags curbside in any quantity i want.

[CompletelyNumb]

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There really needs to be a politician every couple decades to really come in and clean house. The bloat and waste that accumulates is ridiculous.

Farkas for mayor? :p

[bjstare]

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meanwhile in Edmonton i still throw bags curbside in any quantity i want.

Well yeah, easy to do that when the whole city is a landfill

[speedog]

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meanwhile in Edmonton i still throw bags curbside in any quantity i want.

Well you still be able to in Calgary but it'll cost you $3 per bag and that $3 gets you a tag for that bag. City is now suggesting that neighbors share their black bin space to avoid excess garbage bag fees. The CoC is also now talking about utilizing the black bin's RFID tag to track how often a household's black bin gets emptied and setting up a fee schedule to reflect that. And further to all of this, the CoC is going to expand it's bin snooping program to cover 200,000 households annually and will farm this out to a third party.

Man, times have certainly changed compared the 70's when our family used to burn everything in an old 45 gallon drum in the back yard (small prairie town).

[killramos]

I am supportive of this actually. Bill me per kg used.

And get rid of the rest of the fees on my utilities in exchange.

[Buster]

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I am supportive of this actually. Bill me per kg used.

And get rid of the rest of the fees on my utilities in exchange.

oh, they won't go backwards on fees. they will jsut add on the service fee.

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Well you still be able to in Calgary but it'll cost you $3 per bag and that $3 gets you a tag for that bag. City is now suggesting that neighbors share their black bin space to avoid excess garbage bag fees. The CoC is also now talking about utilizing the black bin's RFID tag to track how often a household's black bin gets emptied and setting up a fee schedule to reflect that. And further to all of this, the CoC is going to expand it's bin snooping program to cover 200,000 households annually and will farm this out to a third party.

Man, times have certainly changed compared the 70's when our family used to burn everything in an old 45 gallon drum in the back yard (small prairie town).

It's a good idea. I might start to do it.

[colsankey]

your bill will likely end up being stupid per kg, and after they pay a 3rd party to build, develop and rollout this system your taxes will go up to keep up on all of the scope creep.

Theres 0 chance your utility fees go down.

[killramos]

oh i agree don't worry, the idea is predicated upon the concept that the government can do anything competently.

I just generally prefer the concept of user fees to blanket taxes though.

[Buster]

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oh i agree don't worry, the idea is predicated upon the concept that the government can do anything competently.

I just generally prefer the concept of user fees to blanket taxes though.

Two tier black bins? How dare you!

[killramos]

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Two tier black bins? How dare you!

I mean, a third tier where I neither pay taxes and get my garbage taken for free would work too.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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oh i agree don't worry, the idea is predicated upon the concept that the government can do anything competently.

I just generally prefer the concept of user fees to blanket taxes though.

I also agree, but it's painful. They just waste the saved money paying hippies to give you shit for throwing pizza boxes out.

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Man, times have certainly changed compared the 70's when our family used to burn everything in an old 45 gallon drum in the back yard (small prairie town).

And yet it returns of you push people around enough. My friend recently moved to an acreage. Now burns+50% of what should be recycled because they've made it horrible for him.

[msommers]

Why do I suspect that some high-garbage household will end up dumping their shit in other people's bins to avoid higher costs...

[Disoblige]

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Why do I suspect that some high-garbage household will end up dumping their shit in other people's bins to avoid higher costs...

This already happens in small towns. I see people dumping garbage in people's bins thinking it's OK when the person with the bin is paying for the bin fees. People are assholes.

Totally will see this happen here too.

[jltabot]

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Why do I suspect that some high-garbage household will end up dumping their shit in other people's bins to avoid higher costs...

This already happens. My dad notices how full his bins are on collection day knowing full well he only has one or two bags in it when he takes it out the night before. We're all trying so hard to convince my parents to move outta the NE lol

[Tik-Tok]

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This already happens. My dad notices how full his bins are on collection day knowing full well he only has one or two bags in it when he takes it out the night before.

As long as there's room for his garbage, then does it matter?

[you&me]

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As long as there's room for his garbage, then does it matter?

No, and as per above, the city encourages this.

We are a family of 6 and often have my MIL staying with us (beats a nanny!)... My neighbour is a single retired lady that spends 80% of her time travelling and it was her suggestion to use her bins whenever we needed, so she now leaves them on the side of her house so we can access them when ever we need.

That being said, even as a household of 6/7, we very rarely fill our black bin even with the bi-weekly pick ups... It's much more common to run out of space in the blue bin, especially after a birthday (toy packaging is obscene!), even though I know ~70% of the blue bin will end up in the landfill anyways.

[Xtrema]

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Why do I suspect that some high-garbage household will end up dumping their shit in other people's bins to avoid higher costs...

I believe they are encouraging this as part of the $3/bag program.

If your neighbor got room, fill it.

[pheoxs]

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No, and as per above, the city encourages this.

We are a family of 6 and often have my MIL staying with us (beats a nanny!)... My neighbour is a single retired lady that spends 80% of her time travelling and it was her suggestion to use her bins whenever we needed, so she now leaves them on the side of her house so we can access them when ever we need.

That being said, even as a household of 6/7, we very rarely fill our black bin even with the bi-weekly pick ups... It's much more common to run out of space in the blue bin, especially after a birthday (toy packaging is obscene!), even though I know ~70% of the blue bin will end up in the landfill anyways.

The blue bin pisses me off. Why can't we leave larger pieces of cardboard flattened near it. If we get something big from ikea or a tv or something, having to shred the cardboard so it fits in the bin, and takes up the entire bin, is so frustrating. I swear some weeks our bin is full from a couple cardboard boxes and not even any of our other recyclables.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Yeah, sometimes after a few package deliveries, I need to stagger my cardboard recycling thanks to this.