Out door trim lights.

[spike98]

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Has anyone got 2021 quotes or install from Gemstone or Trimlight? Just wondering if $21 is still the going rate or if prices have come down a bit? Looking at @drtoohotty1 's PermaTrack kit I'd be about $1100 CND plus bullshit border fees. Trying to weigh my options.

I think me and some buddies around the block are going the DIY route. We will save on shipping and pitch in to rent a genie lift for a weekend to get it all done. Should come in at half the cost of trim lights.

[drtoohotty1]

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I think me and some buddies around the block are going the DIY route. We will save on shipping and pitch in to rent a genie lift for a weekend to get it all done. Should come in at half the cost of trim lights.

Let me know if you do I will jump in on that group buy.

[ExtraSlow]

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Did I mention my install company is un-bonded and cash only? It's more environmentally friendly. Less paper.

Did some Amazon ordering, just enough material to do one side of garage in back yard. If that looks good for Christmas I'll see about the rest in spring. If I have problems, I'm sure @mr2mike can assist for a very reasonable hourly rate.

[mr2mike]

I'll assist you draining your vodka reserves.


Also saw these guys on YouTube making kits. Seems legit.
https://www.permatrack.us/shop/permatrack/

[ExtraSlow]

So, I had a little project hiatus over December and january, but did make some progress. Initially had issues with the Wifi controller, just couldn't get ti connected to the app on my phone, and that's the only way to do anything. Lights would run through a very pretty demo pattern, but zero control. Sent wifi controller back to amazon for refund, and got a Bluetooth one. Same company, but the app is incredibly different. Works reasonably well, has 200 preset programs, and speed and brightness control, which isn't bad. Strangely, if I choose a solid colour, the light end up a different color than the app says, which is freaky. App says blue, lights turn green, that sort of thing.

May check out alternative apps. The youtubes make it look like that's a thing, and that might be nice. Still not sure if this hardware and software combo is something I'd want on my entire house. If I did, I'd for sure want to do a lot of planning for the install. Right now, the disco lights in my yard are good enough.

if anyone has experience with other SP105E apps, let me know.

[mr2mike]

All I know:
https://kno.wled.ge/basics/compatible-software/

[ExtraSlow]

Don't think I can use WLED with my SP105e Bluetooth controller.

[pheoxs]

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Strangely, if I choose a solid colour, the light end up a different color than the app says, which is freaky. App says blue, lights turn green, that sort of thing.


if anyone has experience with other SP105E apps, let me know.

Some LED chips are RGB while others are GBR. In WLED there is options to select the color order, not sure if SP105e supports that though. You could/should be able to use any WLED controller on those strips though, they're almost all the same WS2812 (or equivalent) strips anyways.

[ExtraSlow]

Yes, I can buy a different controller and use WLED. But would be tickled to find an additional app option that works with this current controller, since I bought it. My strips are ws2811 type.

Maybe I should be gbr. Can verify easily.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rd1LCYRZEQQpLBZ18

[ExtraSlow]

Well, BRG works to make the colors as advertised. So that's something.

[403ep3]

Not sure if anyone is looking, but saw this guy post on the "Houses With Gemstone Lighting" Facebook group

"Jason Kohut

The Christmas rush is over, contact us for after season discounts to be ready for next year! We are an authorized Gemstone dealer in the area of Calgary & will beat any competitors price by 5%.
It’s not too late to make your home stand out all year! Send us an email with your name, phone number and address at [email protected]
We will come out, take measurements and email you within 48hrs with your free estimate. Mention this ad so we can apply your after season discount.
Alternatively you can private message me with your info."

[schurchill39]

How does the estimate process for Gemstone work? From what I can see on their website you just give them your address and someone comes by to measure it up then emails you a quote? Except you don't know when they will come so how do they know what you want done? Or do they just assume that most houses are just the front with X amount of wrap around on each side?

[nismodrifter]

Yep that's basically what they do.

[mr2mike]

So close to finishing up on diy parts collection.
Just needing the metal work cost.

[pheoxs]

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How does the estimate process for Gemstone work? From what I can see on their website you just give them your address and someone comes by to measure it up then emails you a quote? Except you don't know when they will come so how do they know what you want done? Or do they just assume that most houses are just the front with X amount of wrap around on each side?

With google street view having pretty clear pictures and being able to measure reference distances I wouldn’t be surprised if they estimate it virtually. Pretty easy to see a 50 foot wide house, two storeys, looks like it’s 30 feet deep, etc

[ganesh]

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How does the estimate process for Gemstone work? From what I can see on their website you just give them your address and someone comes by to measure it up then emails you a quote? Except you don't know when they will come so how do they know what you want done? Or do they just assume that most houses are just the front with X amount of wrap around on each side?

When they did our house 4 years ago they took pics and drew a red line on the pic to indicate where and where the lights are going to go. For the sides they marked the length because some people go with it and the others don't.
Picture also showed the location of the controller.
They gave us an Appointment and when they were at the property they called me to say that they are at the house.
As for what you want when the called to book the appointment they asked what we want.
Keep in mind this was 4 years ago things may have changed by now.

[bjstare]

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So close to finishing up on diy parts collection.
Just needing the metal work cost.

You might be the first person I’ve come across outside my family that has heard of signalta haha.

[Rocket1k78]

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How does the estimate process for Gemstone work? From what I can see on their website you just give them your address and someone comes by to measure it up then emails you a quote? Except you don't know when they will come so how do they know what you want done? Or do they just assume that most houses are just the front with X amount of wrap around on each side?

Pretty much your last part, you'd basically want all the eaves trough areas done for the front. They quoted ours about a month ago and the only real option i could do was run it down the whole length of the side of the garage or end it 5ft from the corner to save some costs.

[schurchill39]

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Pretty much your last part, you'd basically want all the eaves trough areas done for the front. They quoted ours about a month ago and the only real option i could do was run it down the whole length of the side of the garage or end it 5ft from the corner to save some costs.

They actually came by this morning and I caught them creeping out the window so I talked to the estimator a bit. I got the quote about 3 hours later and it was actually a pretty reasonable price. It lined up with my own estimate of $21/ft + $225 for the controller.

[Doozer]

Similar, I submitted my request last night, and the guy came by this morning. Got the quote within an hour of that. Didn't say the total linear footage that they're estimating, but came in higher than I was expecting. Now decisions.