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    I only ever run Shell premium in my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    If the gas is full of ethanol it will definitely mix with a fair amount of water.

    Since I don’t know what I’m taking about, http://www.fuel-testers.com/remove_water_gas.html
    Never did I claim otherwise? Way to go making up an argument though. I asked you how you "knew" centex was "full" of ethanol (whatever that means, such precise language ) Not if it was "full" of water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiTempguy1 View Post
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    Well then they are breaking the law, so I doubt it. The rules are pretty clear, ethanol must comprise a total of 5% of gas sales volume. Hence regular "may contain up to 10%" and premium has none at certain brands. Additionally, you'd be crazy not to put 10% ethanol in your gas as wholesale ethanol is much cheaper than wholesale gas.
    Fuel producers and importers are required to average 5% renewable, not required at the pump. Coop has it's own refinery and sells the ethanol mix to other companies while selling the ethanol free stuff for itself. Of course this may have changed by now, but as of 2015 it was true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black gts View Post
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    which station is that? I was in the mid west usa last year and was tempted to try it, but it was the same price and i was already getting trash mileage from the heavy blended fuel there. It was the same price, as far as i can tell it's like making your car vegan just because.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Fuel producers and importers are required to average 5% renewable, not required at the pump. Coop has it's own refinery and sells the ethanol mix to other companies while selling the ethanol free stuff for itself. Of course this may have changed by now, but as of 2015 it was true.

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    Ethanol free was why I first started going to co-op, the cherry is full service especially in winter. Their car wash is awesome too. I've been going to co-op for over 10 years now haha.

    87 and 89 definitely has some ethanol it in. Here's the latest.

    http://crs.coopconnection.ca/files/P...s-GASOLINE.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Ethanol free was why I first started going to co-op, the cherry is full service especially in winter. Their car wash is awesome too. I've been going to co-op for over 10 years now haha.

    87 and 89 definitely has some ethanol it in. Here's the latest.

    http://crs.coopconnection.ca/files/P...s-GASOLINE.pdf
    Note the numbers range though, 0-10%, not every Co-Op station in AB/SK is ethanol free, but Calgary is (or was... I should just call and ask)

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    Can someone explain ‘top tier’ gas. A lot of people say “Costco sells top tier gas” like it is an adjective (marketing guys are certainly laughing their asses off at that) but it’s just a branding. What I can’t figure out and hoping someone can explain, is it an actual supplier or just s company that rubber stamps gasoline suppliers that put detergents in that meet their standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Fuel producers and importers are required to average 5% renewable, not required at the pump. Coop has it's own refinery and sells the ethanol mix to other companies while selling the ethanol free stuff for itself. ]
    Semantics when there are essentially very few privately owned, non-franchise gas stations in Alberta (especially in the major cities). As the franchises have to purchase from their respective brands, defacto up to 10% ethanol is basically the standard.

    Coop had a loophole, FasGas/Parkland may have as well. You can in theory get ethanol free 87 fuel from any gas station depending on a variety of reasons, but its extremely unlikely.

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    Top tier is a third party cert that ensure a certain level of additives.

    As for Centex and ethanol, they tell you right on the pump that their 91 contains ethanol. That’s how I “came to that conclusion”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Top tier is a third party cert that ensure a certain level of additives.

    As for Centex and ethanol, they tell you right on the pump that their 91 contains ethanol. That’s how I “came to that conclusion”.
    That’s what I figured it essentially it means absolutely nothing about the source or quality of the gasoline just means someone dumped top tier’s prescribed cocktail of additives into it.

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    Yea that's my understanding, whether or not the additives matter is up to you really. Lots of people love the chevron with techron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Yea that's my understanding, whether or not the additives matter is up to you really. Lots of people love the chevron with techron.
    Yea my position is I don’t know, it’s impossible to find true 3rd party testing and hilariously when you look at the valve carbon buildup comparison tests (for example) when you read the fine print they almost always are testing gasoline with additives to a competitor’s gasoline with ethanol. An elementary student can tell you that you aren’t properly setting up controls for the results to be anything but worthless

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Top tier is a third party cert that ensure a certain level of additives.

    As for Centex and ethanol, they tell you right on the pump that their 91 contains ethanol. That’s how I “came to that conclusion”.
    10% is “full of ethanol”??

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    yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    yes?
    No. I have a car in the garage that has about 93% ethanol in it right now...I’d say that fuel is full of ethanol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by never View Post
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    No. I have a car in the garage that has about 93% ethanol in it right now...I’d say that fuel is full of ethanol.
    Congratulations. You should toss that fuel in your road car!

    Do you feel the same way about allowable diesel levels in a gas car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Congratulations. You should toss that fuel in your road car!

    Do you feel the same way about allowable diesel levels in a gas car?
    It is a street car...gets driven 85 km each way to work, among other driving. Vehicles can work very well with mostly ethanol so my comment was just highlighting that 10% is not a large proportion of ethanol. They won’t work with a large (or any) proportion of it being diesel so that’s an irrelevant comparison.

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    Congratulations to both of you. You each feel smug and superior to the other, and you both proved nothing, and you both look infantile for this argument.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Congratulations to both of you. You each feel smug and superior to the other, and you both proved nothing, and you both look infantile for this argument.
    Perfect, mission accomplished!

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