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    Default Always pull your drivers abstract after pleading guilty to a lesser offense.

    I got a speeding ticket in March, my first speeding ticket in many years. 123 in an 80 - yah, I got sloppy and hauled ass. Robotic sheriff pulled me over. Ticket was $270 and 4 demerits.

    Since I drive for UBER, 4 demerits will disqualify me from driving. So, I did a consult with a traffic lawyer in Red Deer who also has experience with this sheriff as well as the Crown and judges and what not. He said he could probably get the charge withdrawn as long as I agreed to a lesser offense. My only concern was with the demerits. First court date comes and it gets put over for another 2 weeks or something. Second date comes and the Crown offers two plea deals.

    1: Speeding fine for 175 and 3 demerits.
    2: Failure to obey a traffic control device fine for 270 and 2 demerits.

    Third and final court date comes to enter a plea. I chose option number 2 because, as I said, my only concern was the demerit points. Plea is entered, speeding charge is withdrawn by the Crown and I'm now guilty of failure to obey a traffic control device. I'm given time to pay until July 31.

    I pay the fine, all is well until I pull my drivers abstract yesterday and see a conviction of speeding carrying 4 demerits. My lawyer specifically told me to pull my abstract a couple weeks after all is said and done to ensure no mistakes are made. Well, pretty much everything I'm looking at is wrong. I guess that's government incompetence for you.

    So I head to the court house with all my documentation from my lawyer and my abstract. Did all the explaining and she takes copies of everything and says she is going to fax everything to Driver Fitness and Monitoring (lol, who in the fuck uses a fax machine anymore!?!). She tells me to pull my abstract again in 2 weeks and it should be all cleared up.

    Moral of the story: Don't trust the government to do its job correctly. If you're doing anything other than paying the original fine/ticket, be sure to pull your abstract after. You don't want extra demerits on your abstract going unnoticed.
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    Thanks for the heads up. I'll be dealing with something very similar in the near future lol.

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    Wait the two weeks and then call DFM yourself. Speak to an agent and confirm it’s been updated before you go and pay for another abstract. No point in paying registries for 3 abstracts. Their number is 780-427-8230

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    Thanks dannie. I figured you'd post in this thread.
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    No problem. Hope it helps

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    DFM means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    DFM means?
    Just a guess but....

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    So I head to the court house with all my documentation from my lawyer and my abstract. Did all the explaining and she takes copies of everything and says she is going to fax everything to Driver Fitness and Monitoring (lol, who in the fuck uses a fax machine anymore!?!). She tells me to pull my abstract again in 2 weeks and it should be all cleared up.
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    Just a guess but....
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    i didn't realize some traffic fines didn't list the demerits on it. I found out when i pleaded guilty i actually got 3 demerits from it, when i remember the speeding tickets indicated the demerits. i wish i fought it if i knew i was gonna get dinged

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    Bumping because I just pulled my abstract again and found something interesting.

    I decided to pull my 3 year abstract this morning to make sure everything is still ok given the recent shit show I had to deal with. My abstract indicates exactly what I expected and matches what I have posted earlier in this thread. However, there has been a change made; I don't have any demerits anymore. The conviction is still on there with a date of offence of 2018/03/01 and conviction date of 2018/05/30 but the demerits column is just blank and the current demerit points total at the top of the abstract is also blank.

    The other most recent 3 year abstract I pulled was on 2020/03/16 and it indicates 2 demerit points.

    Anyone have any theories as to the change? The points and conviction shouldn't be falling off the three year abstract until next year.

    Just find it interesting that they're currently not listed.
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    Demerits fall off after two years iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo View Post
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    Demerits fall off after two years iirc.
    This is correct. Demerits 2 years, record 3 years on abstract.
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    Ahhh, this I did not know. Interesting. Thanks for the replies
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