Saudi VS Canada 2018

[Sugarphreak]

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[A790]

Fuck those guys. Bunch of drama queens.... sorry, kings.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Fuck Trumpdeau, "governing" by tweet. If he wanted to make an actual statement on human rights and effect change, there were far better ways to do it. He continues to punish the taxpayer for his blunders and incompetence. What an amateur move.

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The KSA has abysmal human right issues, check

Canada is a leader in human rights, check

KSA does not comment on Canadian internal affairs, check

Canada feels its morally superior to the KSA and cant avoid commenting on their internal affairs, check (like holy shit, we have such a good reputation with our FN peoples)



Could the liberal clowns piss any more business customers? I'm sure teenage-woman Trudeau could find something to pick on Australia about.

But really, fuck off about commenting about the negatives, the top Canadian officials should be commenting positively on the KSA for moving into the 19th Century with regards to some of the womens' rights issues (eg. driving).

Its their society and it will adapt or it will die off. 70 years ago there was just sand and fishing villages there.

[dirtsniffer]

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[95EagleAWD]

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The KSA has abysmal human right issues, check

Canada is a leader in human rights, check

KSA does not comment on Canadian internal affairs, check

Canada feels its morally superior to the KSA and cant avoid commenting on their internal affairs, check (like holy shit, we have such a good reputation with our FN peoples)



Could the liberal clowns piss any more business customers? I'm sure teenage-woman Trudeau could find something to pick on Australia about.

But really, fuck off about commenting about the negatives, the top Canadian officials should be commenting positively on the KSA for moving into the 19th Century with regards to some of the womens' rights issues (eg. driving).

Its their society and it will adapt or it will die off. 70 years ago there was just sand and fishing villages there.

You're fucked. On one hand, you call Trudeau a "woman" because he picks on something, and at the same time lambast Canada for it's relationships with the FN population, which is something Trudeau CAMPAIGNED ON, and has been taking measures to fix, so... what point are you trying to make here? It's terrible history, and we should ignore it?

Fuck Saudi Arabia.

They fucking CRUCIFIED a guy the other day. They chop people's heads off, for GETTING raped.

Fuck Saudi Arabia. We ARE morally superior to that government. And it's about time someone said so.

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You're fucked. On one hand, you call Trudeau a "woman" because he picks on something, and at the same time lambast Canada for it's relationships with the FN population, which is something Trudeau CAMPAIGNED ON, and has been taking measures to fix, so... what point are you trying to make here? It's terrible history, and we should ignore it?

Fuck Saudi Arabia.

They fucking CRUCIFIED a guy the other day. They chop people's heads off, for GETTING raped.

Fuck Saudi Arabia. We ARE morally superior to that government. And it's about time someone said so.

The point is that we should worry about our own internal affairs first, before commenting on someone elses like that.

Genocide is one thing, yes we as humans have a duty (except in Rwanda, where it wasnt for some reason and a million people died)... but for the various countries around the world and their human rights track record, we need to look at our own issues first.

Let the Saudis handle their own shit. We are not the Americans who should be policing anything.

[A790]

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The point is that we should worry about our own internal affairs first, before commenting on someone elses like that.

To clarify: until we are 100% spic and span, we should not be critical of countries that oppress their people?

If so, just how perfect do we have to be?

I'm not saying that it's our right to be stomping around in other people's back yards, but when people make the argument you just made, I wonder what exactly they consider to be "good enough" before we can start calling other countries out for inciting terrorism, causing wars, stomping all over human rights, and other generally assholish behaviour.

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To clarify: until we are 100% spic and span, we should not be critical of countries that oppress their people?

If so, just how perfect do we have to be?

I'm not saying that it's our right to be stomping around in other people's back yards, but when people make the argument you just made, I wonder what exactly they consider to be "good enough" before we can start calling other countries out for inciting terrorism, causing wars, stomping all over human rights, and other generally assholish behaviour.

Calling out countries for any of this accomplishes nothing. Canada is not in a position as a world power to be pointing anything at anyone - thats how the world politics is played. If you are in a position of weakness (as we are) relative to the KSA, we should not be inciting anything over this minor. They are FULLY aware of what the rest of the developed world thinks about them.

Money talks. Armies walk.

[95EagleAWD]

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The point is that we should worry about our own internal affairs first, before commenting on someone elses like that.

Genocide is one thing, yes we as humans have a duty (except in Rwanda, where it wasnt for some reason and a million people died)... but for the various countries around the world and their human rights track record, we need to look at our own issues first.

Let the Saudis handle their own shit. We are not the Americans who should be policing anything.

I disagree with everything you said.

You said we should be praising SA’s allowance of women to finally drive now? Guess who helped make that happen. The woman in the tweet. That was arrested.

Canada is, and should be, a moral beacon. We’re not perfect, but we’re trying pretty hard to improve, and to right past wrongs. We should not be doing business with a country like Saudi Arabia.

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Perhaps this is all a play to get more Canadians onboard with pipelines and refineries, instead of buying blood oil.

[A790]

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Calling out countries for any of this accomplishes nothing. Canada is not in a position as a world power to be pointing anything at anyone - thats how the world politics is played. If you are in a position of weakness (as we are) relative to the KSA, we should not be inciting anything over this minor. They are FULLY aware of what the rest of the developed world thinks about them.

Money talks. Armies walk.

That doesn't even remotely address what I asked you.

"Take care of our own back yard". Okay- when is the yard taken care of?

[HiTempguy1]

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I wonder what exactly they consider to be "good enough" before we can start calling other countries out

Well, probably by not being a bitch.

No, seriously, Trudeau is like the peanut gallery. STFU and do something, or get over it. While I agree with everything about how bad the Saudis are, its their country, and they can run it as they see fit. I completely get the "fuck that guy" attitude they are having with Canada right now.

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That doesn't even remotely address what I asked you.

"Take care of our own back yard". Okay- when is the yard taken care of?

There is no point - we can never be perfect - hence its illogical for us to be poking at others' transgressions. The list of countries that the liberal clowns 'should' be calling out like this is probably endless.

This accomplishes absolutely nothing except to piss off other countries.

Economics or military - if one is serious.

[95EagleAWD]

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its their country, and they can run it as they see fit. I completely get the "fuck that guy" attitude they are having with Canada right now.

Tell the Germans that in the 1940s.

I mean, it’s their country, right? They can do what they want?

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There is no point - we can never be perfect - hence its illogical for us to be poking at others' transgressions. The list of countries that the liberal clowns 'should' be calling out like this is probably endless.

This accomplishes absolutely nothing except to piss off other countries.

Economics or military - if one is serious.

The economics, from what I’ve read, won’t much matter to Canada. We trade $4 billion a year with them. We trade $2 billion a day with the USA.

They’re recalling students, medical patients, and all that. Sounds like a loss for Saudi Arabia.

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Then we need to close our borders with America as they invaded Iraq for no good reason back in 2002 and killed untold numbers.

The selective hatred is what is silly. Its best to shut up about these things.

[Sugarphreak]

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[95EagleAWD]

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Then we need to close our borders with America as they invaded Iraq for no good reason back in 2002 and killed untold numbers.

The selective hatred is what is silly. Its best to shut up about these things.

Plenty of people were quite vocal about opposing the Iraq war, and Canada didn't join in on that coalition, for good reason. Fifteen years later, and Iraq is probably the worst foreign policy decision the US has made.

[HiTempguy1]

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Tell the Germans that in the 1940s.

I mean, it’s their country, right? They can do what they want?
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I specifically said either do something about it or stfu you dolt. Ww2 was directly caused by nobody doing anything about it.

Further to that, you'd have to be a complete idiot to think Saudi is anywhere near Nazi Germany in terms of overall atrocities. To make the comparison just makes you sound even more stupid.

[Maxt]

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Perhaps this is all a play to get more Canadians onboard with pipelines and refineries, instead of buying blood oil.

Maybe, and what helped Trudeau in the polls last month, trade conflict.