Speeding tickets in Calgary construction zones up more than 1300%

[Maxt]

They caught four people travelling over twice the speed limit and nobody was killed. Interesting statistic.

[Disoblige]

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Look at this shit in Edmonton:
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/cri...ined-1500-rcmp

There's missing info here, right? I thought they towed your car and auto court date for this type of thing. Because if it's only $1500 (when caught) to start driving 180 on the highway - I'm starting!

Did you not read the first sentence? He was suspended for 60 days AND fined.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Did you not read the first sentence? He was suspended for 60 days AND fined.

I did. The thing is, (and try to keep this on the DL), your car still works completely normally even without the piece of plastic in your wallet. So if you drive like a normal person for 60 entire days and hence not get pulled over again, you're golden.
Still I assume the article is failing to mention some other form of crippling financial penalty... Isn't it? I mean fuck - you should be able to spend awhile driving 180 on a hwy before actually getting bagged and then when you do it's $1500 not $15,000?!
Have they invented laser jammers that block these new gimmick frequencies police now have? Like Dragon Eye or whatever?
It just seems like a minor penalty when shitty places like Beaumont are handing out $400 fines for only slowing to 1.878km/h at a 4-way Stop with zero other cars within a hundred miles and perfect visibility. If that's $400 you'd think doubling up on the speed limit would be a prison term.

[ExtraSlow]

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I did. The thing is, (and try to keep this on the DL), your car still works completely normally even without the piece of plastic in your wallet. So if you drive like a normal person for 60 entire days and hence not get pulled over again, you're golden.
Still I assume the article is failing to mention some other form of crippling financial penalty... Isn't it? I mean fuck - you should be able to spend awhile driving 180 on a hwy before actually getting bagged and then when you do it's $1500 not $15,000?!
Have they invented laser jammers that block these new gimmick frequencies police now have? Like Dragon Eye or whatever?
It just seems like a minor penalty when shitty places like Beaumont are handing out $400 fines for only slowing to 1.878km/h at a 4-way Stop with zero other cars within a hundred miles and perfect visibility. If that's $400 you'd think doubling up on the speed limit would be a prison term.

Thumbs up for your username and double thumbs up for strong E-town attitude.

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Thumbs up for your username and double thumbs up for strong E-town attitude.

The forum needs some fresh blood to laugh at.

[bjstare]

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I did. The thing is, (and try to keep this on the DL), your car still works completely normally even without the piece of plastic in your wallet. So if you drive like a normal person for 60 entire days and hence not get pulled over again, you're golden.
Still I assume the article is failing to mention some other form of crippling financial penalty... Isn't it? I mean fuck - you should be able to spend awhile driving 180 on a hwy before actually getting bagged and then when you do it's $1500 not $15,000?!
Have they invented laser jammers that block these new gimmick frequencies police now have? Like Dragon Eye or whatever?
It just seems like a minor penalty when shitty places like Beaumont are handing out $400 fines for only slowing to 1.878km/h at a 4-way Stop with zero other cars within a hundred miles and perfect visibility. If that's $400 you'd think doubling up on the speed limit would be a prison term.

Joins a car enthusiast forum, complains about speeding penalties being too low.

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[beyond_ban]

Back on the original topic, it looks like the government finally has put some restrictions in place for the general contractors of these large construction sites that back up traffic with unnecessary slow downs. Nice to see positive changes actually take place once in a while. It will be interesting to see how closely these sites are actually monitored to ensure that the new guidelines are being followed by the GC.

It’s something most people who drive on Alberta highways in the summer have experienced: cruising along until seeing a sign indicating a reduction in the speed limit for a construction zone. But then, after slowly meandering through the construction zone, the realization sets in that no crews are out working.

On Tuesday, Alberta’s transportation minister announced he is enacting the Traffic Accommodation in Work Zones regulation to improve traffic flow through construction zones on provincial highways while still ensuring they are still safe for workers.

“More and more people have talked to me about being frustrated on the highway when the speed limit is reduced in an area for seemingly no reason and there are instances where they might get a ticket, double fine and demerits, even though the stretch of road they were on had no construction taking place at all, no workers on site, and nothing to suggest a lower speed limit was necessary,” Brian Mason told reporters.

Mason added that in these cases, traffic can often become congested or frustrated drivers begin using dangerous tactics like tailgating while following people obeying the reduced speed limits.

“We need to take driver psychology into account when we make our rules.”

When the construction season begins in spring, contractors will now be required to cover speed-reduction signage in a construction zone where no workers are present and if there are no safety concerns.

Among the changes the new rules call for are more consistent use of road construction signage, limiting the distance of lane closures in construction zones — in most cases — to no more than three kilometres, more gradual speed reductions through construction zones, longer distances for speed transition zones that come before construction zones and more frequent use of electronic speed displays and rumble strips to slow traffic at actual construction sites.

Mason emphasized to reporters, however, that the new rules are in no way meant to compromise the safety of people who work on Alberta’s provincial highways.

“We all need to focus on making sure that when we’re driving on Alberta highways, we’re also keeping an eye out for people who are working and make sure we do everything possible to protect them,” he said.

“And that is… critically important, because ensuring that the safety of the people working on our highways, whether they’re a tow-truck operator or construction people, is of paramount importance, and I don’t ever want to lose sight of that very important factor.”

Mason said his government engaged in consultations with a number of stakeholders, including the Alberta Construction Safety Association, Consulting Engineers of Alberta, the Alberta Roadbuilders and Heavy Construction Association and the Alberta Union of Provincial Employees.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4851874/m...ighways-speed/

[Mitsu3000gt]

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"When the construction season begins in spring, contractors will now be required to cover speed-reduction signage in a construction zone where no workers are present and if there are no safety concerns."

The entire city will be restored to full original speed limit 99% of the time if this is true, so I am skeptical. I hope it's true though because currently it is absolutely ridiculous, and the city preys on it with photo radar as much as possible. I feel like they will hang onto the broad interpretation of "safety concerns" to maintain status quo and avoid the extra work of covering the signage.

[lasimmon]

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The entire city will be restored to full original speed limit 99% of the time if this is true, so I am skeptical. I hope it's true though because currently it is absolutely ridiculous, and the city preys on it with photo radar as much as possible. I feel like they will hang onto the broad interpretation of "safety concerns" to maintain status quo and avoid the extra work of covering the signage.

Its only on highways. Not cities. Doubt the city will wanna give up that sweet photo radar revenue.

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Its only on highways. Not cities. Doubt the city will wanna give up that sweet photo radar revenue.

Ah, I missed that, thanks. That makes more sense.

[beyond_ban]

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Its only on highways. Not cities. Doubt the city will wanna give up that sweet photo radar revenue.

Would be nice for municipal roads to follow the same precedent, but that is most likely a pipe dream. At least this is a step in the right direction, as i was unjustly dinged last year on the QEII through Red Deer's 100000km long construction zone.

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Joins a car enthusiast forum, complains about speeding penalties being too low.

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Please quote the part where I was complaining about it.
Is reading > you ?
Me saying words to the effect of "if it's that cheap, I'm gonna start driving faster" doesn't seem like "complaining".

[Banff_Dude]

If it is true that CPS keep all ticket revenue for themselves, their overall budget should be cut by the city.

[OTown]

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They caught four people travelling over twice the speed limit and nobody was killed. Interesting statistic.

Ah I see. Cops need to wait until someone dies to enforce laws. Makes total sense.

[speedog]

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If it is true that CPS keep all ticket revenue for themselves, their overall budget should be cut by the city.

I think it been posted on here before that all ticket proceeds go into the CoC's coffers and are divided up from there.

[Maxt]

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Ah I see. Cops need to wait until someone dies to enforce laws. Makes total sense.

0 for 4, speed kills.

[16hypen3sp]

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QEII through Red Deer's 100000km long construction zone.

Cops love it there.

[Misterman]

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Ah I see. Cops need to wait until someone dies to enforce laws. Makes total sense.

I don't disagree with enforcing these sort of egregious speeds. But there is still plenty of people dying in traffic accidents on highways, and enforcement standards don't seem to be targeting a reduction of those accidents. So if enforcement motivation isn't based around accident reduction, what is it's purpose?

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I don't disagree with enforcing these sort of egregious speeds. But there is still plenty of people dying in traffic accidents on highways, and enforcement standards don't seem to be targeting a reduction of those accidents. So if enforcement motivation isn't based around accident reduction, what is it's purpose?

Not sure why you would come to that conclusion - the AB sheriffs do pretty much this - rural highway patrol. The RCMP and others are too busy trying to catch actual criminals.

Unless you want 1000x more police on the roads, or post mounted cameras at high risk locations - even then you will never eliminate all speed related collisions.

Mandated winter tires in AB would be FAR more effective. You have people thinking that its OK to drive in blizzard conditions on sheet ice because you 'have an SUV with AWD' and A/S tires.

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Mandated winter tires in AB would be FAR more effective. You have people thinking that its OK to drive in blizzard conditions on sheet ice because you 'have an SUV with AWD' and A/S tires.

I'm actually really surprised we don't have this already with such a high number of people concerned about 'safety' to the point of lobbying for 30-40km/h residential speed limits, and the city having such a hard-on for anything that might increase their ticket revenue, like not having winter tires.