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    Quote Originally Posted by ????? View Post
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    Have any of you guys tried out the new X-Ice Snows or Vikings 7's?
    Looking for a new set for my parents vehicle and those are the two I've narrowed down to for a studless ice/snow tire.

    I'm a XI3 fan so I'm personally leaning towards the Snow but the Vikings are a bit more budget friendly. Opinions/thoughts would be appreciated.
    You are totally comparing apples to apples there and I would not even remotely want to suggest one is a better product than the other overall. If it was me and those were the two options, I am going to buy whichever one is the better value, but if you are willing to spend more money own it just for the sake of brand preference, you are not getting a bad tire for sure in the Michelin. Just spending more money for no real reason other than it makes you feel better about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ????? View Post
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    Have any of you guys tried out the new X-Ice Snows or Vikings 7's?
    Looking for a new set for my parents vehicle and those are the two I've narrowed down to for a studless ice/snow tire.

    I'm a XI3 fan so I'm personally leaning towards the Snow but the Vikings are a bit more budget friendly. Opinions/thoughts would be appreciated.
    Second season on the vikings and I am pretty happy. Review very well from the nordic reviews as well. Would be interested in seeing what the new michelins can do though.

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    So far I havent had any issues with my Federal Himalaya Inverno K1. Wish I had gotten them studded though. Then I can be unstoppable. They drive alot better than when my Pathfinder was on GT Radial Champiro IcePros studded.
    Originally posted by GTS Jeff
    You know those bored stay at home moms who's entire lives revolve around driving their kids to soccer, various cleaning accessories, and worrying about neighbourhood rapists? The kind of people that watch the View and go "uh huh..." Those unfulfilled people who try to fill the void in their empty lives by writing whiny letters to the editor complaining about shit that no one really cares about?

    Well imagine if instead of writing that letter to the editor, she just posts on a car forum for car enthusiasts. That's Kritafo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ????? View Post
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    Have any of you guys tried out the new X-Ice Snows or Vikings 7's?
    Looking for a new set for my parents vehicle and those are the two I've narrowed down to for a studless ice/snow tire.

    I'm a XI3 fan so I'm personally leaning towards the Snow but the Vikings are a bit more budget friendly. Opinions/thoughts would be appreciated.
    The new Michelins didn't do very well in this year's Norwegian Automobile Federation test:

    http://www.skstuds.ca/2020/10/10/end...ter-tire-test/

    2020 Studless Tire Ranking List and Final Scoring
    1) 88 points Continental VikingContact 7
    2) 80 points Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3
    3) 79 points Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice2
    3) 79 points Pirelli IceZero Fr
    5) 71 points Nexen Winguard Ice Plus WH43
    6) 70 points Michelin X -Ice Snow
    7) 64 points Bridgestone Blizzak Ice
    8) 54 points Firemax / Nereus FM805 + / NS805 +

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    Wish I could review them but the Viking 7's ended up being $200 less than the X-Ice Snows so that's what we ended up going with.


    Do you guys know why the sipes on the Michelin's go all the way down the full tread depth while the Blizzaks (WS90's) and the Viking 7's only slit down the top 1/3 of the tread depth? Do they automatically "rip" deeper into the tread as they wear?
    I never noticed this before until I looked at them close up side by side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpomp View Post
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    The new Michelins didn't do very well in this year's Norwegian Automobile Federation test:

    http://www.skstuds.ca/2020/10/10/end...ter-tire-test/

    2020 Studless Tire Ranking List and Final Scoring
    1) 88 points – Continental VikingContact 7
    2) 80 points – Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3
    3) 79 points – Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice2
    3) 79 points – Pirelli IceZero Fr
    5) 71 points – Nexen Winguard Ice Plus WH43
    6) 70 points – Michelin X -Ice Snow
    7) 64 points – Bridgestone Blizzak Ice
    8) 54 points – Firemax / Nereus FM805 + / NS805 +
    TireBob's word >> Dirty eurotrash tests.
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    The new X-Ice Snows look very similar to the Xi3's and what I remember about my Xi3's is that they sucked in deep snow, but were hard to beat for stopping distance on cold pavement, packed snow, or ice. That's why I always bought them as that is where I would be most likely to get into an at-fault accident. They also retained most of their performance at 50% tread. Looks like the "snow" variant lost points for wet braking and cornering which seems to be an OK trade-off since neither of those are overly important for winter driving compared to where it excels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ????? View Post
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    Wish I could review them but the Viking 7's ended up being $200 less than the X-Ice Snows so that's what we ended up going with.


    Do you guys know why the sipes on the Michelin's go all the way down the full tread depth while the Blizzaks (WS90's) and the Viking 7's only slit down the top 1/3 of the tread depth? Do they automatically "rip" deeper into the tread as they wear?
    I never noticed this before until I looked at them close up side by side.
    Directly affects tire stability and squirm.

    Usually at a cost of performance. Some winter tires you'll feel the back of the car go back and forth slightly going down the road in a straight line.

    Just depends on what you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zechs View Post
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    Directly affects tire stability and squirm.

    Usually at a cost of performance. Some winter tires you'll feel the back of the car go back and forth slightly going down the road in a straight line.

    Just depends on what you need.
    Sure but....there's just no more sipes after the top third?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpomp View Post
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    The new Michelins didn't do very well in this year's Norwegian Automobile Federation test:

    http://www.skstuds.ca/2020/10/10/end...ter-tire-test/

    2020 Studless Tire Ranking List and Final Scoring
    1) 88 points – Continental VikingContact 7
    2) 80 points – Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3
    3) 79 points – Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice2
    3) 79 points – Pirelli IceZero Fr
    5) 71 points – Nexen Winguard Ice Plus WH43
    6) 70 points – Michelin X -Ice Snow
    7) 64 points – Bridgestone Blizzak Ice
    8) 54 points – Firemax / Nereus FM805 + / NS805 +

    Well I'll be damned. Nexen beat out Michelin and Bridgestone
    Originally posted by GTS Jeff
    You know those bored stay at home moms who's entire lives revolve around driving their kids to soccer, various cleaning accessories, and worrying about neighbourhood rapists? The kind of people that watch the View and go "uh huh..." Those unfulfilled people who try to fill the void in their empty lives by writing whiny letters to the editor complaining about shit that no one really cares about?

    Well imagine if instead of writing that letter to the editor, she just posts on a car forum for car enthusiasts. That's Kritafo.

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    I am a huge Continental fan. Viking 7 is a super solid choice! I have yet to hear something negative yet.

    I just picked up a set of the studded icecontact....super impressed so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpomp View Post
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    The new Michelins didn't do very well in this year's Norwegian Automobile Federation test:

    http://www.skstuds.ca/2020/10/10/end...ter-tire-test/

    2020 Studless Tire Ranking List and Final Scoring
    1) 88 points – Continental VikingContact 7
    2) 80 points – Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3
    3) 79 points – Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice2
    3) 79 points – Pirelli IceZero Fr
    5) 71 points – Nexen Winguard Ice Plus WH43
    6) 70 points – Michelin X -Ice Snow
    7) 64 points – Bridgestone Blizzak Ice
    8) 54 points – Firemax / Nereus FM805 + / NS805 +
    They put far too much emphasis on wet and dry performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    They put far too much emphasis on wet and dry performance.
    I suppose that's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    TireBob's word >> Dirty eurotrash tests.
    LoL!
    That's a Saskatchewan site. Sasketrash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rural_Juror View Post
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    That's a Saskatchewan site. Sasketrash.
    Was it!? Didn't watch, LoL!
    Just assumed because Conti and Nokian placed top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Was it!? Didn't watch, LoL!
    Just assumed because Conti and Nokian placed top.
    Website is from Saskatchestan, the testing was done by a Norwegian website in Sweden and Norway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyra1ax View Post
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    Website is from Saskatchestan, the testing was done by a Norwegian website in Sweden and Norway.
    Ha! RurrJurr can't even spot a freakin Barley Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Ha! RurrJurr can't even spot a freakin Barley Jack.
    I don't even know what that is. I get all my vitamins from fish.
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