2018-2019 Winter tire discussion

[ShermanEF9]

I would at least replace both on the axle so they are the same.

edit: Jesus I need to hit refresh once in a while..

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I would at least replace both on the axle so they are the same.

edit: Jesus I need to hit refresh once in a while..

Pffftt! Newb!
Next you're gonna end up saying something political about oil in the F1 thread...
Err, wait...

[ShermanEF9]

Whats an F1? Can I eat it?

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Only if it moves...

No funny business with the soap while listening!

The timing was perfect today, tirebob on the radio while I was in the shower talking to me about EV winter tires.

Didn't move.

[tirebob]

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The timing was perfect today, tirebob on the radio while I was in the shower talking to me about EV winter tires.

Didn't move.

Haha! I didn't know that aired today... I will have to look for it.

[beecue]

So I have studded federal himalayas and been having some issues. However, I'm not sure if it's just the conditions or the tires. Earlier I had lots of trouble going slightly uphill from a complete stop and random skidding sometimes. I figured with studs they would be pretty good.

[tirebob]

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So I have studded federal himalayas and been having some issues. However, I'm not sure if it's just the conditions or the tires. Earlier I had lots of trouble going slightly uphill from a complete stop and random skidding sometimes. I figured with studs they would be pretty good.

At the -30 type temps we have been seeing, studs are actually not as good as they are in the usual -5/-10/-15 kind of thing. It is soooo cold right now that ice is brittle and chippy as hell so rather than biting it just crushes against the torque. Also, the compound on tires in this kinds of cold has firmed up a lot so the benefits designed into the tread patterns etc get reduced. They just do not have the same flexibility and adhesion. The most premium ice tires with the highest levels of complex compounding are typically the best in the super deep cold as they stay more pliable the longest, but they are also the spendiest and tend to wear a bit quicker in normal times.

Studs definitely help, but they are not a 100% magic bullet against slipping or spinning. They are an extra layer of ability and will improve areas to be sure than if you did not have them, but everything always comes down to the specific situation.

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At the -30 type temps we have been seeing, studs are actually not as good as they are in the usual -5/-10/-15 kind of thing. It is soooo cold right now that ice is brittle and chippy as hell so rather than biting it just crushes against the torque. Also, the compound on tires in this kinds of cold has firmed up a lot so the benefits designed into the tread patterns etc get reduced. They just do not have the same flexibility and adhesion. The most premium ice tires with the highest levels of complex compounding are typically the best in the super deep cold as they stay more pliable the longest, but they are also the spendiest and tend to wear a bit quicker in normal times.

Studs definitely help, but they are not a 100% magic bullet against slipping or spinning. They are an extra layer of ability and will improve areas to be sure than if you did not have them, but everything always comes down to the specific situation.

I’m guessing Hakkas are considered premium? Honestly I haven’t felt like it’s been slippery at all in the deep freeze. It’s been great haha. Probably the best year to have these tires.

[beecue]

Thanks for the info! I might have to try studded hakkas for my next set.

[saiyajin]

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I’m guessing Hakkas are considered premium? Honestly I haven’t felt like it’s been slippery at all in the deep freeze. It’s been great haha. Probably the best year to have these tires.

Agreed! have been on studded Hakka 9s few seasons and have been very happy with their performance in winter, worth the $

[danno]

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I’m guessing Hakkas are considered premium? Honestly I haven’t felt like it’s been slippery at all in the deep freeze. It’s been great haha. Probably the best year to have these tires.

I felt the same but then I drove 16th ave N both east and west and it was very sketchy. My winters are due for replacement at the end of this season though.

[gpomp]

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I’m guessing Hakkas are considered premium? Honestly I haven’t felt like it’s been slippery at all in the deep freeze. It’s been great haha. Probably the best year to have these tires.

I think the "premium" studded tires are right now are Hakka 10, Michelin North 4, Pirelli Ice Zero, and Continental XTRM.

[ThePenIsMightier]

I know a smart guy with a huge shlong, and his technique is to sell his used winter tires when they are still at >60% tread depth. He gets a little under 50% retail for the tires and ends up always running on the freshest, gooiest rubber for the worst conditions while still getting maybe 4 years out of each set.
One time the girl he sold a set to hit on him after!

He's got shitty benefits, though...

[tirebob]

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I’m guessing Hakkas are considered premium? Honestly I haven’t felt like it’s been slippery at all in the deep freeze. It’s been great haha. Probably the best year to have these tires.

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I think the "premium" studded tires are right now are Hakka 10, Michelin North 4, Pirelli Ice Zero, and Continental XTRM.

Ding ding ding! These are definitely going to be some of your absolutely top tier level studded tires out there currently. You get not only the benefit of the studs, but they are also some of the highest quality, most complex rubber compounding giving you the good ol’ double whammy of traction.

[prae]

The blizzak dmv2s I've got on both vehicles have been somewhat underwhelming in the deep freeze. Enough that I might finally splash out for some hakka's next time I buy.

[haggis88]

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The blizzak dmv2s I've got on both vehicles have been somewhat underwhelming in the deep freeze. Enough that I might finally splash out for some hakka's next time I buy.

In what way?

Only complaint I ever hear about Blizzaks is that they wear out too quickly

FWIW, you pay over the odds for Hakkas because KalTire has exclusive distribution on them. Take from that what you will. Oh, and also you have to deal with KalTire

My Cooper Discoverer Snow Claws (studded) have been excellent this cold snap, barely had to engage the 4x4. It also probably helps that the Expedition weighs more than the Queen Mary

[Strider]

Got studded Hakka 9s before last winter. Well worth it, won't ever buy anything else in the future.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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In what way?

Only complaint I ever hear about Blizzaks is that they wear out too quickly

FWIW, you pay over the odds for Hakkas because KalTire has exclusive distribution on them. Take from that what you will. Oh, and also you have to deal with KalTire

Strongly agree on lack of desire to hitch my wagon to Kal and put my elbows on the table for pricing.

[gpomp]

There's no need to go to Kal Tire for Nokians. Pretty much every shop can bring them in for you.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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There's no need to go to Kal Tire for Nokians. Pretty much every shop can bring them in for you.

But they have to buy them from Kal, so you pay even more.