Inexpensive Electric Cars - All brands discussion.

[Pauly Boy]

EV delivery times are insane right now between covid production issues, AB allocation being terrible & demand with gas prices.

Even worse for things like the Rav4 Prime - My salesbro bud says they will never fill their orders for it before they discontinue this current generation of Rav, lol

[The_Rural_Juror]

Hybrids are awful.

https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/arti...0for%20hybrids.

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Hybrids are awful.

https://www.guideautoweb.com/en/arti...0for%20hybrids.

Stop posting fake news.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...al-statistics/

Source of data was figured out and kinda hilarious comedy of errors.

Drives me insane that this fake news is pretty much waved as true fact and ignores how ridiculous the numbers are.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Stop posting fake news.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...al-statistics/

Drives me insane that this fake news is pretty much waved as true fact and ignores how ridiculous the numbers are.

I wasn't aware that it was fake news. My humblest apologies, great sir.
They cite recalls.gov as their source.

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I updated my post with the guy that reverse engineered the stats. But hilarious that they updated their source that puts fire risk based on recalls. That's even more ridiculous haha.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I updated my post with the guy that reverse engineered the stats. But hilarious that they updated their source that puts fire risk based on recalls. That's even more ridiculous haha.

Can we hug it out?

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[The_Rural_Juror]

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That means a lot to me, especially how much y'all hate Teslas.

[flipstah]

Haven't seen an Ioniq 5 in person yet, but website pictures look great

[Tik-Tok]

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Haven't seen an Ioniq 5 in person yet, but website pictures look great

They don't look quite as good in person, but still decent.

So weird they don't have a rear window wiper though.

[spike98]

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Haven't seen an Ioniq 5 in person yet, but website pictures look great

I saw/sat in one in a showroom and was impressed. However, seeing it in the sun/on the road, its pretty ugly. That said, the price/performance is spot on and the 800v dc charging is good for 80% in like 25 min.

[DonJuan]

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I saw/sat in one in a showroom and was impressed. However, seeing it in the sun/on the road, its pretty ugly. That said, the price/performance is spot on and the 800v dc charging is good for 80% in like 25 min.

This is also my impression, though I haven't sat in it yet. On the road it's not good looking and kind of blends in.

[bjstare]

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Haven't seen an Ioniq 5 in person yet, but website pictures look great

Looks way better in pictures. My neighbours are friends with someone who visits often and drives one of those.

IRL, it's too big and the design doesn't scale well. I expected it to be the size of a golf based on pics, but it's closer to the size of a normal small SUV.

[flipstah]

So I started looking up EVs seriously when I rented a Model 3 and the panel gaps were horrendous. The window also didn't fully seal so we got wind noise on the highway just on one side. From what I've read in Beyond, all Tesla's are hit-and-miss in quality.

Is there a 'jerry can' version of a charger and not a Tesla plug that goes through 110V? Is there a 220V portable charger?

[Darell_n]

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Is there a 'jerry can' version of a charger and not a Tesla plug that goes through 110V? Is there a 220V portable charger?

They make these little fast charger jerry cans.

[Kloubek]

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From what I've read in Beyond, all Tesla's are hit-and-miss in quality.

From what *I've* heard, it's almost always a miss. I'm not sure how many workers build a car in their factory, but it seems virtually all of them have fitment issues and creaky plastic interior panel syndrome.

For a vehicle that positions itself as a semi-luxury brand, they have a ways to go before their product lives up to the ethos.

[flipstah]

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From what *I've* heard, it's almost always a miss. I'm not sure how many workers build a car in their factory, but it seems virtually all of them have fitment issues and creaky plastic interior panel syndrome.

For a vehicle that positions itself as a semi-luxury brand, they have a ways to go before their product lives up to the ethos.

As I started looking more seriously for comparative models, Audi has a comprehensive lineup that makes Tesla look like a Daewoo. The Audi Q4 is pretty nice and priced very well compared to Model Y. $60k start

EDIT: Interesting chart. I guess rebates are only for leases?

https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transpo...gible-vehicles

[spike98]

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As I started looking more seriously for comparative models, Audi has a comprehensive lineup that makes Tesla look like a Daewoo. The Audi Q4 is pretty nice and priced very well compared to Model Y. $60k start

EDIT: Interesting chart. I guess rebates are only for leases?

https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transpo...gible-vehicles

The rebates also account for purchases as well

Not sure what Audi's deal is but when we were looking, anything Audi related was not even able to be factory ordered (at the time anways). There was absolutely no way to get anything electric in thier lineup (unless we are talking a $150k etron).

[Xtrema]

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As I started looking more seriously for comparative models, Audi has a comprehensive lineup that makes Tesla look like a Daewoo. The Audi Q4 is pretty nice and priced very well compared to Model Y. $60k start

EDIT: Interesting chart. I guess rebates are only for leases?

https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transpo...gible-vehicles

Q4 is basically a rebadged ID4. I don't think think the rebate applies to the Sportback model tho.

Rebate for purchase or lease but pro-rate based on duration of the lease.

[rage2]

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For a vehicle that positions itself as a semi-luxury brand, they have a ways to go before their product lives up to the ethos.

@benyl said it best, it’s not a luxury car. It’s a fast econobox, like STI or EVO. I think the only people that position Tesla as a luxury car are the ones buying such an expensive car for the first time, coming from 10+ year old even bigger shit boxes. The ones that get wet over the brake hold feature haha.