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That was not my contention. My position is that there has been measurable, nutritional soil depletion, which was countered by a 'tin foil hat' type of argument, which I then showed evidence for.
The greater implications of this are for others to discuss.
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What about other stuff like Vitamin D? Fish oils? etc.Originally Posted by nismodrifter
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I am user #49Originally posted by rage2
Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
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The sun is a great source of vitamin DThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteWhat about other stuff like Vitamin D? Fish oils? etc.
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Have you tried an apple, banana, orange, broccoli... I find these among others are the best.
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He's not "entirely" wrong.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He's not wrong at all.
Soil nutrition depletion is researched and understood. It's not up for debate and has been objectively demonstrated in studies conducted globally.
So people are willing to recognize the science that has determined the soil is changing, and yet immediately discard the science that says there are no benefits to taking multi-vitamins.
Interesting.
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How about that climate change thing that people on this forum are convinced isn't happening?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
not me.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
all in tesla.
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Because vaccines cause autism.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And bad science that appeals to your idea of "right" makes it fact. Until it doesn't:
https://qz.com/1069298/the-3-of-scie...aR2e5LXTdIoYa4
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Go here for information on a lot of supplements:
https://examine.com/nutrition/do-you...-multivitamin/
According to their Supplement-Goals Reference Guide (which I purchased several years ago; probably equivalent to their A-to-Z Supplement Reference), no multi is necessary but people are likely underdosing vitamins D and K. Others they list that are difficult to get the optimal levels in the diet are calcium, iron (for low/no meat eaters), magnesium, and zinc (mostly for people who sweat a lot). Fish oil is good to balance meat intake, unless fatty fish intake is also sufficient.
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Evidence strongly supports Vit D supplementation for every single Canadian.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteWhat about other stuff like Vitamin D? Fish oils? etc.
Around 2011-2012 the debate was quite heated, every single patient coming in begging for their vitamin D to be checked.
Fast forward to 2018, it's very simple, if you are in Canada you should take vitamin D. The test is no longer covered as its deemed unnecessary, costs $35.
http://www.topalbertadoctors.org/upl...57Vz_92317.pdf
^The guideline.
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These are my go to multi-vitamin Controlled Labs Orange Triad
http://www.controlledlabs.com/produc...ious-athletes/
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Not true. Many people are deficient because of the amount t of Vitamin D we get from the sun.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you get a check done you will probably be deficient too.
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LulzThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
http://soils.wisc.edu/facstaff/barak...neapolis2000a/
Oh shit, I posted a link from a university backed study as well. What is appears to be is a situation just like multi-vitamins (no real evidence to support or deny the claim).
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/15/s...-of-crops.html
Damn, the NY Times and their conservative right wing conspiracy peddling science deniers!
https://www.gardenmyths.com/soil-fertility-decreasing/
Not a white paper, but has referenced sources for their information.
Christ, you guys are as bad as Phreak with his overpopulation crap. What's that thing about smart people believing their own bullshit?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-smart-people-are-dumb
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Wait, are you a smart guy who's dumb or a dumb guy who's smart or what?
Can't we all just be regular people who have confirmation bias and no higher than average insight?
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Thanks for agreeing with my position - right from one of your linksThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Donald R. Davis, the lead author of the 2004 study, wrote a review of evidence of nutrition loss in fruits and vegetables in 2009. He concluded that the broad evidence of nutritional decline seemed difficult to dismiss,
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I ended up ordering these just to try:
https://www.amazon.ca/Adam-Mens-Mult...=now+adam+mens
They had essentially the same rating on Labdoor for efficacy and ingredient safety at the Vitamin Codes, were $27 cheaper, and recommended dosage was 2/day instead of 4/day.
We'll see if I notice any difference at all.
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Zinc-free gummy vitamins (vitafusion)
Cuz, two gummies equals a standard vitamin. So I only take one, because I'm pretty sure at most I need to just cover a minor deficiency at most. If I ate too many ramen noodles on the week, then two gummies per day.
Chalk vitamins suck, because I'm pretty sure in Alberta we get far too much of that type of mineral in our hard water anyways.
Cocoa $11,000 per ton.
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Zinc is awesome, why would you avoid it?
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Zinc should be taken separately if you think you need it.
Cocoa $11,000 per ton.
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