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    Default Atco 3 year promo

    Has anyone seen the current ATCO Energy Promo?

    $3 GJ Nat Gas
    0.03 KWH Electricity

    The Electricity Rate seems hot but the Nat Gas Rate is a bit high.

    https://www.atco.com/en-ca/energy.html

    My house uses about 1200KWH per month & Nat Gas is about 12 GJ per month. Based on last years floating rate + transaction fees (around ~$1/GJ) (yes historical NG rates give us no picture of the future) it looks like I will save about $500/yr.

    Thoughts?

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    I'm assuming you read the thread on RFD? From the numbers people are discussing there it doesn't seem like a good deal since you are paying a higher rate for gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roopi View Post
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    I'm assuming you read the thread on RFD? From the numbers people are discussing there it doesn't seem like a good deal since you are paying a higher rate for gas.
    Yes I took a read. I just use so much more electricity than gas. Plus with gas around $1 + the $1 fee you are paying about $1 more per GJ. So I guess it really depends on the mix of energy you use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roopi View Post
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    I'm assuming you read the thread on RFD? From the numbers people are discussing there it doesn't seem like a good deal since you are paying a higher rate for gas.
    I think fixed natural gas is a bad deal regardless who you go with.

    But Enmax's fixed rate is $3.8 so ATCO is still cheaper.

    So if you like paying fixed cost, ATCO deal is still better than ENMAX's EasyMax. And if you drive an EV, it's a slam dunk at 3c/kwh. At 1000kwh/month, electricity will be $30 less per month. But $1/GJ more at 10GJ per month, it's $10 more. So net saving for me would be around $240 per year if all costs stay the same.

    The question is will NG prices goes up once the LNG Canada terminal and infrastructure is all built out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    The question is will NG prices goes up once the LNG Canada terminal and infrastructure is all built out?
    It absolutely will, but that's YEARS away.
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    I was hoping for another "Jan/Feb Free Energy" promo. Fuck was that awesome last year. Garage at 23* for the coldest 2 months in recent history. 35gj of gas each month for free, not to mention the electricity too, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    The question is will NG prices goes up once the LNG Canada terminal and infrastructure is all built out?
    Yep, it will... well after this 3 year promo is over. :P
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    Just signed up for it (My direct energy contract was up) we use lots of electricity in this house and not much gas (I like it cold) - FYI direct energy Cancellations couldn't match it closest they could get was 3.99 for electricity for 1 year
    "Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid."

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    I was just chatting with ATCO and i signed up last year for the free two months and i paid an average of 2.99 / gj on atco... it looks like Enmax average was in the mid 2 range. and they are predicting a cold winter in the east so that will drive price up higher... not crazy high but looking at the consumption of my house the atco 3 yr deal is good for me...

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    Reviewed my bill recently, basically I use $30 in gas but there is $80 of fee and carbon tax. For electricity it's about $30 + $50 of fees. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think energy prices is what I worry about.

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    I did the math the other day, I use was more KW than GJ. If this coming year is the same as the past 11 months, I'll spend an extra $50 on Nat.Gas, but save $450 on Electricity, so net savings will be $400 give or take per year.

    This is excluding fee's, taxes, etc., just KWh and GJ used.

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    I don't know how but my variable gas on enmax is between $0.5 and $1.29 with a $1 transaction fee. So I am still paying $1.50 - $2.00 for gas a GJ (assuming the $3 includes the transaction fee).

    So $3.00 gas is brutal for me. Even though I only used 11 GJ this month come winter I will be 30GJ and variable electricity is only $0.3 higher, so saves like $15.00. Math doesn't work in my favor based on what I've done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redline View Post
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    I was just chatting with ATCO and i signed up last year for the free two months and i paid an average of 2.99 / gj on atco... it looks like Enmax average was in the mid 2 range. and they are predicting a cold winter in the east so that will drive price up higher... not crazy high but looking at the consumption of my house the atco 3 yr deal is good for me...
    Good old msrketing. Dsily seco is sitting a rad over 1 gj right now and q1 curbe is 1.30 gj right now. Cold weather be damned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O&G View Post
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    Good old msrketing. Dsily seco is sitting a rad over 1 gj right now and q1 curbe is 1.30 gj right now. Cold weather be damned.
    Great and informative post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Great and informative post!
    Reads like a Gestalt post.


    I made the switch... I use more Electricity and with the $50 credit they offered before Dec and lower fee I should be saving $400-500 a year.

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    Made the switch. I have similar looking numbers to those above, $50 more per year for gas compared to 2018 on variable and save $200 per year on electricity (was on $0.0589/kwh fixed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cosworth View Post
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    I don't know how but my variable gas on enmax is between $0.5 and $1.29 with a $1 transaction fee. So I am still paying $1.50 - $2.00 for gas a GJ (assuming the $3 includes the transaction fee).

    So $3.00 gas is brutal for me. Even though I only used 11 GJ this month come winter I will be 30GJ and variable electricity is only $0.3 higher, so saves like $15.00. Math doesn't work in my favor based on what I've done.

    So you guys made me look again. I made a pretty crude spreadsheet (happy to share it) that you put in your gas costs, electric costs, fees, etc. Was surprised it came out to save me about $175 a year using my bills back to Sept 2016. Saves me about $20 a month in the summer and costs me about $10 a month in the winter.

    I'm going to look into the fine print to make sure I'm not missing anything. But it does seem that it is a good deal.


    Edit:

    Ok so a couple things I missed but you guys might want to know. The $3 gas includes the admin fee, which with Easymax is $0.99. So my 18 month average for gas is $1.9 BUT you have to add $0.99. So really the gas I am paying is like $2.80 right now. There is a $150 cancellation fee with ATCO and it goes down $50 a year. Last, you have to give Enmax (in my case) 30 days notice to change but when you sign up you can specify the start date as 30 days from now.

    My average gas WITH the .99 is $2.8597 so it costs me $0.15 a GJ more and I use about 110GJ a year... so $17 a year more for gas. My electricity is average $0.0554, so save $0.0254. And I use 8,000kwh a year usually. So save $200 on that. Plus the transaction fee is $1.00 cheaper on both Gas and Power. So $24. So really........ charge me more for gas, save it on the admin fee. Cheaper electricity.
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    I just did a thorough comparison of my 2017 and 2018 bills with Enmax variable electricity and gas including the grandfathered $100/yr credit and lower $.47/GJ transaction fee.
    Would have saved $31.69 in 2017 but $3.79 more in 2018 vs the Atco $.03/kW, $3/GJ.

    I'm sticking with Enmax as long as they continue my grandfathered Easymax credit and lower transaction fee. That saves me about $175/yr indefinitely whereas the fixed Atco rates end in 3 years. Once the 3 year contract is up, the fixed rates may not be as good and then I'd be going back to variable without the yearly credit and lower transaction fee.

    For anyone else that's isn't getting these grandfathered Easymax perks, it's probably worth the switch.

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    So as someone with no prior rates or agreements with enmax... is this a good deal? I see so much talk of yes and no.

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    Thats one of the reasons I haven't switched. My EasyMax rewards $100 credit. Too bad Enmax isn't matching any promos this year tho
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