The TV Deals and Recommendations Thread

[rage2]

I buy my parents cheap ass TVs. They can’t tell the difference since they stream 480p Chinese pirate streams lol. $300 hisense 50” they’re happy as fuck.

[Clever]

True, I’ve never heard of Hisense before but I saw a TCL at Best Buy, same same I’m assuming.

[killramos]

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The B9 hit $5000 once during super bowl week this year. Not sure if that’ll happen again next year. Note that the B9 is the cheaper version of the C9 although both TVs are nearly identical. The CX is the successor to the C9 so you may never see it drop to $5k. The lowest the C9 has ever dropped is $6k. Might be a long wait.

The real difference is blooming vs highlights. You’ll have minor blooming for some extreme scenes on the Sony (dark scenes with highlights), but in most scenes the Sony will have a better HDR image with brighter highlights popping the image while OLED will aggressively dim scenes with many highlights to preserve panel life. Which means in most cases the Sony will look better. If you’re bothered by any blooming, then OLED is the way to go. You care about highlights, Sony.

Video games tho, if you’re a competitive player, you can’t beat OLED.

Do they make a B9 77?

My understanding is the only difference is the C9 has a metal stand.

[rage2]

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Do they make a B9 77?

My understanding is the only difference is the C9 has a metal stand.

They sure did. Long gone tho. The CX 77 @ $5300 is hard to beat. Doubt it’ll ever go past that. If I never had a PQX I would’ve probably gone the OLED route.

Just be aware of ABL if you go OLED. It’s brutal when scenes expose it.



You can lessen the effect by running the TV much darker. Like the YouTube video says, nobody ever talks about it for some strange reason. You can clearly see the problem in the rtings 50% and 100% window test numbers, SDR, HDR, peak, sustained, doesn’t matter. Have a lot of bright areas on the screen, poof. Go to a store and look at the demo reels on the OLEDs. It’s always pure black background with fancy colors in the center to show off the black levels and not expose ABL. It’s a good thing here in Canada we don’t follow any sports that features a lot of white on the screen.

The perfect tv doesn’t exist. Every one has it’s limitations and you’re playing a game of trade offs.

[The_Rural_Juror]

TL;DW: OLED has AIDS. Think twice before you do any sawing with it on your deck.

[dj_rice]

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True, I’ve never heard of Hisense before but I saw a TCL at Best Buy, same same I’m assuming.

TCL and Hisense are this years budget replacements since Vizio gone. Dont think you can go wrong with either, Rtings reviews on both are good for what your parents will use for. Buy from Costco, pay the $99 or less depending on size to get full 5 years warranty and your set (2 manufacturer, 3 Asurion)

[rage2]

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TL;DW: OLED has AIDS. Think twice before you do any sawing with it on your deck.

Great personality though!

[killramos]

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Great personality though!

I would use a different quality than personality.

That’s interesting about the ABL. That would really piss me off.

Decisions decisions... so is Mini/MicroLED the real solution here?

[schocker]

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Decisions decisions... so is Mini/MicroLED the real solution here?

Still a long ways out for anything reasonable

[beecue]

What would be a good TV for next-gen gaming? I want to update if I can sell my current Vizio P65-C1 and find a new one at a good price.

My current Vizio doesn't have good input lag for HDR gaming and can't do 4k 120hz for next-gen.

The Sony 900H might have a decent price for BF and it's supposed to do 4k 120hz with an update supposedly coming.

[killramos]

What’s considered good input lag these days?

[rage2]

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I would use a different quality than personality.

That’s interesting about the ABL. That would really piss me off.

Decisions decisions... so is Mini/MicroLED the real solution here?

MiniLED is just more zones. MicroLED is 3 per pixel for OLED equivalent per pixel light control, while being way brighter, longer lifespan, more efficient, and no burn in. But that’s a good 5+ years away to becoming affordable. It’s promising tho, as it’ll be so bright that they’re estimating 4000 nits of brightness as a baseline for early sets. In theory that’s 4000 nits 1 pixel or all pixels. Would be amazing for DV content.

[killramos]

Got it. So micro LED is whatever I will replace my 2020 TV with.

[beecue]

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What’s considered good input lag these days?

I think under 20. My current TV is like 43 ms for hdr so I can't use it.

[rage2]

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Got it. So micro LED is whatever I will replace my 2020 TV with.

Correct.

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I think under 20. My current TV is like 43 ms for hdr so I can't use it.

Are there TVs that have no lag even in HDR modes? Most of the TVs in game mode accepts HDR but really doesn’t process a lot of it well just to minimize lag. I’d argue if lag was that important, you'd turn off HDR. You want best looking game experience, deal with the lag.

[killramos]

I mean I presume 0 lag isn’t practically possible.

[rage2]

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I mean I presume 0 lag isn’t practically possible.

Maybe it is. I dunno enough about processing to guess what an image with no processing looks like haha.

[beecue]

Yeah 0 doesn't exist. It seems around 15 is excellent.

My current TV does 1080p/4k non hdr great. However, it bumps up like crazy for HDR.

1080p @ 60Hz 16.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz 16.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR 43.8 ms

Need a TV for next gen that does the same for 120hz.

The Sony 900H seems good but it doesn't have specs for 120hz yet.

4k @ 60 Hz 15.1 ms
4k @ 60 Hz + 10 bit HDR 15.2 ms

[danno]

I just bought a hisense 75” for $1700. It’s not the best but I’m quite happy so far. Here’s the review https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/h8g

I think mine a q8g since it’s in Canada. But it’s the same as the review.

[rage2]

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Yeah 0 doesn't exist. It seems around 15 is excellent.

My current TV does 1080p/4k non hdr great. However, it bumps up like crazy for HDR.

1080p @ 60Hz 16.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz 16.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR 43.8 ms

Need a TV for next gen that does the same for 120hz.

The Sony 900H seems good but it doesn't have specs for 120hz yet.

4k @ 60 Hz 15.1 ms
4k @ 60 Hz + 10 bit HDR 15.2 ms

I'm actually surprised it can add HDR processing with such low latency. I looked at the 900H as well, since it's supposed to be upgraded to HDMI 2.1 and VRR with firmware. Went to Best Buy to compare the 950H and 900H side by side, the 900H's colors washes out a little compared to the 950H. The most disappointing is HDR highlights. It barely registers in a normally lit room at Best Buy. They don't even play the good HDR highlights demo reel loop on the 900H, I'm assuming because it'll really expose it's weakness. Seeing as I'm not a hardcore gamer, VRR or low latency doesn't really affect me so I went with the 950H.

The best thing about the 900H is the price. There's a massive premium going to the 950H. You get a lot of TV for what the 900H's sell for.