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    Default 1m buffer around bicycles on roadways

    City Hall is looking into if there should be a required 1m space given to bikes while passing.
    City is looking for feedback.

    https://engage.calgary.ca/transportationbylaw
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    Would bikes be required to give 1m buffer to vehicles too? Same logic apply?
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    How about we just allow them on sidewalks instead?

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    Sweet, lets give cyclists a 1m buffer so they can be more safe as they continue to ignore the rules of the road. Left my feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    How about we just allow them on sidewalks instead?
    They all use the sidewalks anyways.

    Won't bikes just pass cars at lights (which they're not supposed to), forcing the cars into another lane to pass them again? What about single lane roads?
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    I already do this. It's not that big of a deal. Yeah there are bad cyclists but there are far more bad motorists.

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    My issue with this is the lack luster snow removal in this city always takes up half a lane as it is. Making it almost impossible to leave 1m of space while passing other vehicles. This bylaw is being worded to include that distance between any road user, not just bicycles.

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    I rarely bike on the road so it doesn't really bother me much but IMO as a driver, giving some space to the cyclist would be the courteous way just like giving space or moving to the left lane if a car is stopped on the side of the road if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    How about we just force them to use sidewalks instead?

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    I use sidewalks when I bike. There's barely ever any people on them and I just go onto the grass when I have to pass someone
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    I bike often on a 'shared lane' on 11th St SE (i'd take the pathway..if there was one).. I'd love for a 1m buffer to at least suggest people not attempting to clip me with mirrors and the like. Add snow to the mix, and i have virtually no where to actually bike anymore as the entire 'shared' lane is gone, and would require me to take the full lane.

    1 m around a cyclist isnt going to make your commute to work any harder or longer, but it will sure make it safer for the guy riding the bike. We don't win many of those collisions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    How about we just allow them on sidewalks instead?
    This 100%. Nobody walks on sidewalks anyways for those that bitch about safety. Also, keep your god damn eyes open and its not an issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Would bikes be required to give 1m buffer to vehicles too? Same logic apply?
    Bikes are 'vehicles' when convenient and 'pedestrians' when convenient, whether that means holding up 50 cars block after block or cruising down the sidewalk, they just do whats best for them and screw everyone else. They would never even consider leaving 1M of room haha - imagine what that would do to the courier business!

    I'm sure there are some courteous road cyclists out there but I can't recall the last time I saw one. The ones I see all seem to ride around like they are in a little bubble, oblivious to all traffic / actual pedestrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmira View Post
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    I already do this. It's not that big of a deal. Yeah there are bad cyclists but there are far more bad motorists.
    I agree that I already do this but I do not think it needs to be a bylaw. I always leave as much space as possible and if it’s gonna be too tight for comfort I slow down and wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
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    Bikes are 'vehicles' when convenient and 'pedestrians' when convenient, whether that means holding up 50 cars block after block or cruising down the sidewalk, they just do whats best for them and screw everyone else. They would never even consider leaving 1M of room haha - imagine what that would do to the courier business!

    I'm sure there are some courteous road cyclists out there but I can't recall the last time I saw one. The ones I see all seem to ride around like they are in a little bubble, oblivious to all traffic / actual pedestrians.
    I find at least half the commuters are courteous. All the couriers are dicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilDrunkenSmurf View Post
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    I find at least half the commuters are courteous. All the couriers are dicks.
    I look forward to seeing my first one The couriers are just dangerous, I'm honestly surprised more of them don't get hit. They straight up cut drivers off.

    Maybe I just notice the a-holes more, but it sure does seem to be the overwhelming majority of them. What I hate the most is when the ride through traffic and park at the front of a line at a red light, then make 50+ cars drive at 10 km/h, missing all the lights down the street/avenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiTempguy1 View Post
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    This 100%. Nobody walks on sidewalks anyways for those that bitch about safety. Also, keep your god damn eyes open and its not an issue
    That's the irony of the safety argument. There is far less speed differential between peds and bikes, as there is between bikes and cars. It's a no brainer that safety wise it's more appropriate to keep bikes on the sidewalk. Plus it gives an excuse to split sidewalks and enforce keeping right. For some reason it is deemed unsafe to allow something with less than 50cc engine to operate on major highway due to the speed differential that exists. But a bicycle doing half the speed of a moped? Yeah have at er bud.

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    I would absolutely welcome a 1m buffer for passing, especially when I'm commuting with my 3 year old in the Chariot behind me. Realistically though, I don't expect it to be practical to enforce and therefore it wouldn't change drivers' behavior at all... Just a pat on the back for city council for making the city safer for alternative commuting.
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    Apparently they ride on the grass too to get around people on sidewalks

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