Alberta Separatism is starting to go mainstream

[ExtraSlow]

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I'm not sure about his definition of "retire".

It's a surprisingly tricky word for most people.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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I'm not sure about his definition of "retire".

That ol' JD needs to be re-tired roughly every 4 seasons based on tread wear and workload.

[suntan]

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https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/canadians...erta-1.5508102

BC is ok, people like Jess will fill in the vacancies.

So people are leaving AB due to lack of jobs and BC/ON due to housing affordability. Where are they going? SK? QC? Maritimes?

I hope someone told Jess things were even more locked down in BC.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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That ol' JD needs to be re-tired roughly every 4 seasons based on tread wear and workload.

Are you saying there's no tread left on the tires?
So it's pretty much like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

[tirebob]

Bump before Buster can do it!!!

So now what??? Can this shit actually start something worth talking about?? I honestly am on board, but none of this bullshit hill billy sound like an idiot kinda politics. I mean some legitimate ideas and people behind them… Pullleeeeze! This madness has to end!

[Ekliptix]

I have not read this entire thread, but yes please. I don't want to think about suffering further under the Liberals.

[Buster]

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Bump before Buster can do it!!!

So now what??? Can this shit actually start something worth talking about?? I honestly am on board, but none of this bullshit hill billy sound like an idiot kinda politics. I mean some legitimate ideas and people behind them… Pullleeeeze! This madness has to end!

The missing piece is that Albertans have to stop blaming federal politicians for our current mickey mouse country, and start blaming their fellow citizens in Ontario/Quebec/Atlantic. Once they realize that Trudeau et al are just a manifestation of the attitudes of the populace in those provinces, then maybe we will see some change.

[tirebob]

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The missing piece is that Albertans have to stop blaming federal politicians for our current mickey mouse country, and start blaming their fellow citizens in Ontario/Quebec/Atlantic. Once they realize that Trudeau et al are just a manifestation of the attitudes of the populace in those provinces, then maybe we will see some change.

Well technically their politicians are just the manifestation of that populace’s attitudes so really, kind of one and the same no? I am not disagreeing overall though…

[Buster]

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Well technically their politicians are just the manifestation of that populace’s attitudes so really, kind of one and the same no? I am not disagreeing overall though…

The politicians are just an emergent phenomenon of the populace. If you can convince Albertans that people in ontario basically look and act like Trudeau, you might start to gain some traction. Trudeau is the symptom not the disease.

[davidI]

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The missing piece is that Albertans have to stop blaming federal politicians for our current mickey mouse country, and start blaming their fellow citizens in Ontario/Quebec/Atlantic. Once they realize that Trudeau et al are just a manifestation of the attitudes of the populace in those provinces, then maybe we will see some change.

Judging from the commentary from small-minded young adults on Reddit, our fellow citizens in the West are soon going to be just as naïve and red/orange.

[tirebob]

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Judging from the commentary from small-minded young adults on Reddit, our fellow citizens in the West are soon going to be just as naïve and red/orange.

Unfortunately also sad and true.

[killramos]

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Judging from the commentary from small-minded young adults on Reddit, our fellow citizens in the West are soon going to be just as naïve and red/orange.

Socialists always run out of other peoples money eventually.

[davidI]

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Socialists always run out of other peoples money eventually.

Yea, but now economists are convincing students that there's a magic money tree (MMT).

[jwslam]

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The missing piece is that Albertans have to stop blaming federal politicians for our current mickey mouse country, and start blaming their fellow citizens in Ontario/Quebec/Atlantic. Once they realize that Trudeau et al are just a manifestation of the attitudes of the populace in those provinces, then maybe we will see some change.

Regardless of that fact, we again have a party who didn't win the most votes yet won more seats.
Why the fuck do we have a system where 800k voters chose People's party and get ZERO voice in the end?
Conversely 300k voters vote green and get 2 seats.

[ExtraSlow]

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Regardless of that fact, we again have a party who didn't win the most votes yet won more seats.
Why the fuck do we have a system where 800k voters chose People's party and get ZERO voice in the end?
Conversely 300k voters vote green and get 2 seats.

Winning the most sets with not the most votes is a pretty common thing, and not an accident. It's designed to spread representation around the country.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Regardless of that fact, we again have a party who didn't win the most votes yet won more seats.
Why the fuck do we have a system where 800k voters chose People's party and get ZERO voice in the end?
Conversely 300k voters vote green and get 2 seats.

It's because people like Michelle Rempel and John Barlow win by like 25,000+ votes while many Liberal MP's win by small margins. The popular vote isn't going to fix this system.
Stripping seats away from tiny, bullshit ridings is a better step in the right direction. PEI, for a start.

[Buster]

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Regardless of that fact, we again have a party who didn't win the most votes yet won more seats.
Why the fuck do we have a system where 800k voters chose People's party and get ZERO voice in the end?
Conversely 300k voters vote green and get 2 seats.

You are missing the point entirely.

The system is designed to ensure that the will of Ontario and Quebec dominates the country.

[davidI]

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Winning the most sets with not the most votes is a pretty common thing, and not an accident. It's designed to spread representation around the country.

Pretty sure the 905 in the GTA has 30+ seats for ~3.5 million people too.... so it's not actually that spread out.

[2Legit2Quit]

Can we give PEI the boot? Every election it makes my blood boil they have 4 ridings for a tiny tiny tiny tiny population

[zechs]

Is there anyone in the UCP that is a supporter of separating?

Seems like this is an ideal time to put someone in favour of separation in charge if Kenney is ousted. We are under a month away from the referendum and there is zero talk about it (not that really has much to do with separation, but I can see it being an indicator of support for the concept).