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    Default First Nations coalition plans to file UN complaint over oil tanker ban

    Glad to see groups fighting back! (Awesome that the backdrop of the video is Vancouver)

    First Nations coalition plans to file UN complaint over oil tanker ban.

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/video/fi...er-ban~1568758

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I am actually not against the tanker ban North of Vancouver Island personally. That area is utterly treacherous for ships.

    IMO they should be entering into port from the South side of the Island


    I am way more against the moratorium on offshore oil drilling, I think there is a huge opportunity there that is being missed
    it's not a tanker ban though. Hundreds of tankers will still go through the area. The exception are tankers carrying specific crude/chemicals from alberta are banned/restricted

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    The other thing is how can tankers on one coast be dangerous enough to be banned when tankers on the other coast have a free pass? It's 100% aimed at the oilsands.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    One thing I don't understand is how it has become obvious that long term damage from oil spills in the ocean is pretty much not a real a thing. It balls up, sinks, gets devoured by natural sea bacteria. Really the only damage occurs for the short term, it isn't nearly as bad long term as everybody keeps making it out to be.
    Really? I was under the impression it was pretty horrible long- and short-term.
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    I mean ok, but where is that information coming from?
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    Cool, thanks man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    Hmmmm, I kind of feel like you are being sarcastic...
    Sure oil doesn't stick around indefinitely that should be common knowledge there's plenty of natural oil seeps out in the wild and no pools of oil all over the place. The thing is that the impact of large oil spills is immediate and dramatic when it comes to fisheries or tourism. I'm all for the tankers but I am also under no illusion that an oil spill is not a really bad event.

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    I was being genuine. After looking into it more myself and at something longer-term (Exxon Valdez), it's a much better situation that I was under the impression of.

    See the 2016 update:
    http://www.evostc.state.ak.us/index....atus.lingering

    There is still more research coming out. BP set aside $500 Million for Gulf of Mexico Research Initiative for everything research related post-spill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdavirgin View Post
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    Sure oil doesn't stick around indefinitely that should be common knowledge there's plenty of natural oil seeps out in the wild and no pools of oil all over the place. The thing is that the impact of large oil spills is immediate and dramatic when it comes to fisheries or tourism. I'm all for the tankers but I am also under no illusion that an oil spill is not a really bad event.
    You bet. Go walk along the Athabasca River inside Ft McMurray in the Summer and watch the tar seeping into the river. No human involvement needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I thought it was fairly common knowledge these days. Although there is a lot of effort to suppress anything that is positive related to oil.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/26/much...-bacteria.html
    Very interesting, makes sense though, many don’t even realize the gulf is littered with natural HC seeps (leaking in the ballpark of the DWH incident each year from the known seeps)

    They did make the point though that the Candidatus Bermanella macondoprimitus bacteria can’t be readily removed from its native ecosystem. I imagine even something as basic as water temp would have a large impact, making Canada’s pacific coast a poor environment.

    Good article, to be honest I never kept up with that other than the random article about lawsuits here and there
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