Quantcast
The $100,000 a year waitress isn't a myth: Some hard truths about tipping in Canada - Page 7 - Beyond.ca - Car Forums
Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 6 7 8 LastLast
Results 121 to 140 of 157

Thread: The $100,000 a year waitress isn't a myth: Some hard truths about tipping in Canada

  1. #121
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    calgary.ab.ca
    My Ride
    E90M3 510 Wagon
    Posts
    8,025
    Rep Power
    64

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I used to be pretty regular at Caesars. It's possible to have a pretty reasonably priced lunch there if you want. Never had a favourite waiter, and in fact, hated the style of service.
    Whaaaat?! Table side Caesar salads are sooo good

  2. #122
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Homeless
    My Ride
    Blue Dabadee
    Posts
    9,593
    Rep Power
    100

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    $90? What are you guys students or something?
    Yea I am
    Originally posted by Thales of Miletus

    If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
    Originally posted by Toma
    fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yolobimmer View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

  3. #123
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Chinatown
    My Ride
    NC1
    Posts
    10,841
    Rep Power
    86

    Default

    How much is the surf and turf at Caesars now? haha it was $65 back 10 years ago but haven't been since. Modern is my go to now.
    Originally posted by rage2
    Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
    I am user #49

  4. #124
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Calgary AB
    My Ride
    V8s
    Posts
    4,570
    Rep Power
    100

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    How much is the surf and turf at Caesars now? haha it was $65 back 10 years ago but haven't been since. Modern is my go to now.
    Modern is great. But so are tableside caesar salads.

  5. #125
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Homeless
    My Ride
    Blue Dabadee
    Posts
    9,593
    Rep Power
    100

    Default

    Modern is solid, me and the wife love it.
    Originally posted by Thales of Miletus

    If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
    Originally posted by Toma
    fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yolobimmer View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

  6. #126
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    calgary
    Posts
    1,749
    Rep Power
    17

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Lunch meetings and team building, usually Friday early afternoon.
    Makes sense, I’ve been a couple times on someone else’s bill and never thought I’d come back on my own dime. Food is meh, I’ve had equally good steaks at Mr.mikes lol. Is an interesting experience though, it’s like it hasn’t changed since the 80s

  7. #127
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    315
    Rep Power
    16

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Judging other people's worth, and what they should be paid for their professions. Amazing entitlement.
    I mean I agree with what you are saying. Don’t think entitlement is the right word though? Haha

  8. #128
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    Silverado
    Posts
    3,090
    Rep Power
    47

    Default

    Should probably split this thread (and make tirebob the op)

  9. #129
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,406
    Rep Power
    35

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Funny though, if tipping went away, wait staff would become indistinguishable from Tim Horton's drive through staff.
    I don't know how often you go out to different restaurants (sounds like you're a regular at least at Caesars), but I often get better service at places like Tim Hortons than a lot of good restaurants in Calgary. The reason service is so bad is precisely because of the automatic 20% tip expectation - they know they don't have to put in any effort for a tip beyond showing up to work, and most people will blindly tip the usual amount. This is especially bad downtown with expense accounts as I have witnessed literally hundreds of times. If you go anywhere where minimum wage is much lower and tips are required for a living wage, or anywhere that does not accept tips, service is almost universally better in my experience anyway.

    Typical restaurant service is already on par with the average fast food experience:

    - greet for 10 seconds and pour a water
    - take order
    - maybe check on you once, maybe not
    - deliver cheque with a drawing of a smiley face and a completely different personality as a cringey last ditch effort to increase the tip

  10. #130
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    Nothing
    Posts
    1,496
    Rep Power
    20

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I don't know how often you go out to different restaurants (sounds like you're a regular at least at Caesars), but I often get better service at places like Tim Hortons than a lot of good restaurants in Calgary. The reason service is so bad is precisely because of the automatic 20% tip expectation - they know they don't have to put in any effort for a tip beyond showing up to work, and most people will blindly tip the usual amount. This is especially bad downtown with expense accounts as I have witnessed literally hundreds of times. If you go anywhere where minimum wage is much lower and tips are required for a living wage, or anywhere that does not accept tips, service is almost universally better in my experience anyway.

    Typical restaurant service is already on par with the average fast food experience:

    - greet for 10 seconds and pour a water
    - take order
    - maybe check on you once, maybe not
    - deliver cheque with a drawing of a smiley face and a completely different personality as a cringey last ditch effort to increase the tip
    I take all of our clients to Caesar's and usually spend upwards of $1,000/meal. If it were up to me I'd rather take them to like Swiss Chalet, way better service and value. Half the time I even have to educate the waiters on what I can order that's off-menu. But ya gotta tip otherwise you look like a cheap ass.
    sig deleted by moderator, click here for info

  11. #131
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Moo Town
    My Ride
    (0^oo^0)~
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    23

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    - deliver cheque with a drawing of a smiley face and a completely different personality as a cringey last ditch effort to increase the tip
    This.

  12. #132
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    calgary
    Posts
    1,749
    Rep Power
    17

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I don't know how often you go out to different restaurants (sounds like you're a regular at least at Caesars), but I often get better service at places like Tim Hortons than a lot of good restaurants in Calgary. The reason service is so bad is precisely because of the automatic 20% tip expectation - they know they don't have to put in any effort for a tip beyond showing up to work, and most people will blindly tip the usual amount. This is especially bad downtown with expense accounts as I have witnessed literally hundreds of times. If you go anywhere where minimum wage is much lower and tips are required for a living wage, or anywhere that does not accept tips, service is almost universally better in my experience anyway.

    Typical restaurant service is already on par with the average fast food experience:

    - greet for 10 seconds and pour a water
    - take order
    - maybe check on you once, maybe not
    - deliver cheque with a drawing of a smiley face and a completely different personality as a cringey last ditch effort to increase the tip
    What is motivating the Tim hortons employee though?

    I don’t know how they work but is it a visible progression path? Is there a reward structure in place that motivates them?

    I’m a firm believer that like you say if you expect a certain reward regardless of your effort you become lazy (communism, equal outcome etc). Whereas give someone a potential reward for working hard and you will get the best out of them., so what is the differentiating factor between the two systems (restaurant vs Tim hortons etc)?

  13. #133
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Red Deer, Alberta
    My Ride
    1995 WRX STi
    Posts
    1,560
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Judging other people's worth, and what they should be paid for their professions. Amazing entitlement.
    You literally do the same by giving them a tip Infallible logic you've demonstrated there Beyond Baller haha

  14. #134
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Chinatown
    My Ride
    NC1
    Posts
    10,841
    Rep Power
    86

    Default

    even stevens lol for every mitsu, there's a raj2 haha
    Originally posted by rage2
    Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
    I am user #49

  15. #135
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cowtown
    My Ride
    10' 4Runner SR5
    Posts
    6,345
    Rep Power
    58

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by J-hop View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    What is motivating the Tim hortons employee though?
    Citizenship
    Ultracrepidarian

  16. #136
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Only 15min from Aspen!
    My Ride
    Nothing interesting anymore
    Posts
    8,403
    Rep Power
    100

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Citizenship

  17. #137
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,406
    Rep Power
    35

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by J-hop View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    What is motivating the Tim hortons employee though?

    I don’t know how they work but is it a visible progression path? Is there a reward structure in place that motivates them?

    I’m a firm believer that like you say if you expect a certain reward regardless of your effort you become lazy (communism, equal outcome etc). Whereas give someone a potential reward for working hard and you will get the best out of them., so what is the differentiating factor between the two systems (restaurant vs Tim hortons etc)?
    I have no idea how the Tim Hortons employment structure works, but I think msommers had the most accurate answer

    I suspect at Tim Hortons, they already know they aren't getting any tips, and I am assuming there is a power-tripping manager at every location keeping everyone in line. You don't need to speak English well to work there and I think overall it attracts a different type of employee (i.e. I see people my parents' age working there but rarely do I see that in a traditional restaurant). Also they are just so busy all the time that if anyone was slacking off it would probably be extremely obvious to the rest of the staff. At Tim Hortons they know what they signed up for, they get $X/hr and that's that. They also can work normal hours, where as many restaurants don't open until 5pm. At a restaurant, they are getting $15/hr plus 15-20% on almost every table regardless of how good they are so there is no motivation whatsoever to do anything other than the bare minimum. They only thing they care about is getting you another bottle of wine after you're still on the first glass because it has the highest tip return for the lowest effort. If there was any correlation between service quality and tip % in Calgary, I think that would change in a hurry and you would see service quality increase dramatically. Or do like many states do and make server minimum wage $5.00 - then you will see them actually work for tips at times other than check delivery. I think that is a very reasonable solution because then the people who deserve it will make the same money and the slackers will get weeded out. As it is there is no motivation and unless that motivation is financial, nothing will change IMO.

    I don't get a bonus at my job just for showing up to work - there is careful performance tracking, etc. throughout the year and it is entirely based on that.

    The best service experience I've had in recent memory was at Prairie Dog Brewing and surprise surprise - there is no tipping expected there. The bill was lower than it would have been at competing pubs/breweries, service was 10/10, the servers are being compensated fairly - win/win all round.

    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    even stevens lol for every mitsu, there's a raj2 haha
    If you're implying that I am not a generous tipper you need to re-read my posts I think the difference is who I choose to tip and I no longer blindly give 20%. My overall money spent on tipping is probably exactly the same. My outlook on tipping is what has changed towards rewarding those who actually deserve it.
    Last edited by Mitsu3000gt; 01-17-2019 at 10:19 AM.

  18. #138
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Chinatown
    My Ride
    NC1
    Posts
    10,841
    Rep Power
    86

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    My outlook on tipping is what has changed towards rewarding those who actually deserve it.
    That's fair. I guess I'm the same way depending on the hooker lol some get more than others based on service and attention to detail
    Originally posted by rage2
    Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
    I am user #49

  19. #139
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cowtown
    My Ride
    10' 4Runner SR5
    Posts
    6,345
    Rep Power
    58

    Default

    Is he joking...is he not...
    Ultracrepidarian

  20. #140
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Upstairs
    My Ride
    Natural Gas.
    Posts
    13,330
    Rep Power
    100

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Is he joking...is he not...
    It's no joke, some of those gals have no business being in the costumer service industry, while others are true pros and a pleasure to deal with even in unexpected situations.
    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 6 7 8 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. new bank note. $100,000,000,000.00 note now available!

    By spikerS in forum Real Estate / Finance
    Replies: 17
    Latest Threads: 07-31-2008, 09:36 PM
  2. Ten Politically Incorrect Truths About Human Nature

    By BerserkerCatSplat in forum Society / Law / Current Events / Politics
    Replies: 5
    Latest Threads: 07-07-2007, 12:00 AM
  3. Wanted: Waiter/waitress

    By jus_sum_guy in forum Careers
    Replies: 14
    Latest Threads: 04-19-2004, 05:34 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •