China travel ban

[Rocket1k78]

We've been planning a trip to China for the summer and theres been a lot of talk about a travel ban happening. I know theres no for sure answer but what are your guys thoughts on this?

[bjstare]

My point of view is the odds of something happening (i.e. being detained for one reason or another) are super slim... but there's still a chance of it happening. Is it worth the risk? Not for me. Lots of other neat places in the world to visit, pick another place for this year and try China again at a time when there's not controversial things happening

[ExtraSlow]

Doubt there will be a full ban and even if there was it doesn't stop people.

[ercchry]

Just buy good travel insurance, worst case you end up somewhere else fun and exciting

[blownz]

Don't smuggle drugs and you should be fine...

[Xtrema]

As long as you are useless to the Chinese government, you should be ok.

BTW, it's not travel ban but advisory.
https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/china

This is nothing new, we were late to this party. US put same warning up Jan 3rd.
https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...-advisory.html

China knows this will happen when you put a foreign citizen on death roll. That's why that dude got off easy with 15 years, should have shut up and serve it. If he's Chinese, he's dead already.

That said, I believe you probably shouldn't advertise you are Canadian when you are there. Common perception on the street has downgraded a bit since the CFO arrest if social media to be believed.

[Rocket1k78]

^^Thanks for the correction. I just read the article on the guy about to get executed and he smuggled almost 500lbs of meth.

[eblend]

If the guy did what they said he did, than he knew the risks involved, probably made ton of $$$$ while at it, and thus the penalty is just. I don't know all the details but not sure what's wrong with him getting this penalty...why does Canada care if he is a criminal?

[ercchry]

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If the guy did what they said he did, than he knew the risks involved, probably made ton of $$$$ while at it, and thus the penalty is just. I don't know all the details but not sure what's wrong with him getting this penalty...why does Canada care if he is a criminal?

Cause he is a Canadian so Canada would want his punishment to match Canadian law for the crime... and since we don’t have the death penalty it’s a big deal... but also cause Canada is just weak on crime in general. I know someone who served 10 months of a 4 year sentence for coming into the country with about 3kg of blow strapped to her body

[ExtraSlow]

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Cause he is a Canadian so Canada would want his punishment to match Canadian law for the crime.

I've never understood this attitude, and it's widespread.

[ercchry]

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I've never understood this attitude, and it's widespread.

I guess borders don’t mean what they use to... but yeah sorta like the issue of extradition, but in reverse?

[sabad66]

i wouldn't step foot in china at the moment but that's just me.

[Xtrema]

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If the guy did what they said he did, than he knew the risks involved, probably made ton of $$$$ while at it, and thus the penalty is just. I don't know all the details but not sure what's wrong with him getting this penalty...why does Canada care if he is a criminal?

In this case, I believe the guy got what he deserved. He's a lifelong drug trafficker and has been convicted in Canada in 2012 as well. How the hell he got a Chinese VISA is beyond me. And really, people who travel in Asia gotta knows that penalty for drug trafficking in most jurisdictions is death.

While China's court system is a joke, I don't think they take executing foreigners lightly. And he just became useful to teach Canada a lesson when we decided to apply our law fully, so will they.

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i wouldn't step foot in china at the moment but that's just me.

Well, China may be pissed but we currently applied the same rating to UK and France travels as well but for different reason.

I think if you already planned to go and paid, go and behave. If you have not planned anything, wait a few years when this blows over. There's plenty of Asia to see other than China.

[sabad66]

i agree the risk is very low if you are generally well behaved, but for me it's out of principle too. i'm a canadian first so i won't be spending tourism dollars with countries that we aren't on good terms with. (for the record i don't care too much about the situation with this drug smuggling guy...pretty sure he is guilty; more around the other two). Same with Saudi Arabia, although admittedly it's never been on my list for tourism anyways. I have always wanted to visit China though.

[ExtraSlow]

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i'm a canadian first so i won't be spending tourism dollars with countries that we aren't on good terms with.

like the USA?

[Xtrema]

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like the USA?

Avoid if I can for now, since I'm a security risk according to Trump lol.

But really, I'm taking advantage of the low Japanese/Euro/Pound and get the those long distances ones done before I start to hate 10+ hrs in a metal tube.

[Rocket1k78]

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If the guy did what they said he did, than he knew the risks involved, probably made ton of $$$$ while at it, and thus the penalty is just. I don't know all the details but not sure what's wrong with him getting this penalty...why does Canada care if he is a criminal?

I agree, he got off easy with 15 years for what he did. He had 2 prior convictions for trafficking too so its not like he was some naive guy who got duped into carrying a loaded suit case. Just read china executed some British guy for only 8lbs

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I'm taking advantage of the low Japanese/Euro/Pound and get the those long distances ones done before I start to hate 10+ hrs in a metal tube.

Funny you say that because we were looking last night and tokyo is a front runner

[Asian_defender]

I don't see why we are wasting efforts on this guy. 500lbs of meth is a serious offence in any country
That's probably peanuts to what he was doing locally. Why waste more taxpayer money on a guy that's just going to re-offend

[sabad66]

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I don't see why we are wasting efforts on this guy. 500lbs of meth is a serious offence in any country
That's probably peanuts to what he was doing locally. Why waste more taxpayer money on a guy that's just going to re-offend

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[Xtrema]

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Funny you say that because we were looking last night and tokyo is a front runner

Don't need VISA compared to China. Uber clean. People are courteous and if you want to party, just bullet train your ass to Osaka and it's quite lively.

Chinese VISA requirement now is quite a hassle and expensive. They also fingerprint you like criminals now.