What could I get used between 20-30G? Sports sedan-wise?

[tonytiger55]

Lexus...? Reliability, AWD and fast..?

[ragu]

CTR has grown on me and limited audience gets why that car is so so good. As OP drives GLK/370Z, I'd try to tailor my advice accordingly. I owned G35 once and it was the most horrid experience. I think a mix of both of these cars if you want to maintain summer fun is as following:
- Audi RS4
- B8 S4
- E90 M3

Drive em and see what works for you.

[370Z]

The CLA45 option intrigues me. That and the S3. I love small cars. We have no kids so space is not an issue. Maybe I'll wait a year for these to come down in price.

[dirtsniffer]

A nicely loaded accord is nicer than an entry level 3 series, at least it was 10 years ago when cbmw had them as rentals.

Always thought it was hilarious when people whined about getting the loaded accord over a base e90 320 loaner

[Misterman]

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Long story short, DSG and sport diff are problem areas (and those are the two items that really make the car fun).

Colin owned one though, I'm sure he'll go on about his issues in a little more detail. haha

OP wants fun, so assumed he would be getting a manual. That solves one assumptive problem area.

[Misterman]

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Maybe a ctr is more fun to drive for an inexperienced driver. If you think it’s more fun than an F430 around the track it’s probably because you don’t know how to push mid engine rwd supercar properly. Anybody who thinks driving a fwd car is more fun than rwd or awd just doesn’t know how to use those drivetrains properly imo...

No doubt. 2 words. Throttle steer.

[Misterman]

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Lexus...? Reliability, AWD and fast..?

The IS300/350 is great little car that meets the criteria. But it is bloody small inside. The cup holders were enough to make me not want another one. RR racing does make a supercharger kit for them now though................

[mzdspd]

What about a ATS? 2018 for under 30k. Still would have a full warranty and these cars drive great.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/cadillac...%204A4&sprx=-2

[mzdspd]

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The IS300/350 is great little car that meets the criteria. But it is bloody small inside. The cup holders were enough to make me not want another one. RR racing does make a supercharger kit for them now though................

I love how these cars drive but the ergonomics are horrible.. You sit low but you have a high center console with awkward placed cup holders. And then the infotainment/climate control is just horribly laid out with all touch instead of buttons. I am over 6 feet tall and can never actually get comfortable in the car without feeling cramped.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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The CLA45 option intrigues me. That and the S3. I love small cars. We have no kids so space is not an issue. Maybe I'll wait a year for these to come down in price.

The S3 is an absolute blast, so small and nimble. Might be hard to find one for $25-30K but maybe they are creeping down into the $30's. Dynamic mode barking with every up-shift along with the magnetic suspension will keep a grin on your face the whole time. Interior is also amazing, much of the materials and switchgear are straight out of the A8. CLA/GLA 45 are probably way out of your price range for a while.

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A nicely loaded accord is nicer than an entry level 3 series, at least it was 10 years ago when cbmw had them as rentals.

Always thought it was hilarious when people whined about getting the loaded accord over a base e90 320 loaner

IMO the Accord 2.0T Sport is one of the most underrated cars out there for value. Dirt cheap at ~$34K brand new, great motor, 6MT, good power, plenty of technology and a brand new design. I bet you can get an amazing deal on them too because everyone wants SUVs.

[G-ZUS]

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Used German vehicle off warranty....

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Meh, they're not as bad as people make them out to be. I've a few older BMW's and Mercedes, the key is to find a clean example that was taken care of. Otherwise, you will be playing catch up with maintenance that was neglected.

[heavyD]

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What about a ATS? 2018 for under 30k. Still would have a full warranty and these cars drive great.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/cadillac...%204A4&sprx=-2

The ATS may have the best chassis in it's segment but the rest of the car isn't special especially the interior. ATS-V on the other hand will be a great by in a couple more years when they are available in the $30k range.

[A2VR6]

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The S3 is an absolute blast, so small and nimble. Might be hard to find one for $25-30K but maybe they are creeping down into the $30's. Dynamic mode barking with every up-shift along with the magnetic suspension will keep a grin on your face the whole time. Interior is also amazing, much of the materials and switchgear are straight out of the A8. CLA/GLA 45 are probably way out of your price range for a while.

You can get a 2014/2015 CLA/GLA45 for 32k right now... i bet in a year they'll be right at the 30k mark.

[bjstare]

Also if you're willing to forego AWD, first gen (08-09) Lexus ISF checks your boxes better than many of the other cars mentioned in this thread. Deadly reliable, enough power to be a fun DD. Can easily be had for under $30k, you just have to be patient.

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You can get a 2014/2015 CLA/GLA45 for 32k right now... i bet in a year they'll be right at the 30k mark.

Oh wow that's pretty good, I didn't realize they were that old now. You could get them up to around $70K new I would have thought they would have held their value better for an AMG.

[370Z]

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Oh wow that's pretty good, I didn't realize they were that old now. You could get them up to around $70K new I would have thought they would have held their value better for an AMG.

Yup, I checked kijiji... might be worth it to up my budget though I'm 38 right now and I'm not quite ready to give up my 370z just yet, maybe I'll wait until my 40th haha then up my budget up to $40,000.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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Yup, I checked kijiji... might be worth it to up my budget though I'm 38 right now and I'm not quite ready to give up my 370z just yet, maybe I'll wait until my 40th haha then up my budget up to $40,000.

Perfect mid life crisis territory haha. Sounds like a good plan.

[SR54RNR]

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Also if you're willing to forego AWD, first gen (08-09) Lexus ISF checks your boxes better than many of the other cars mentioned in this thread. Deadly reliable, enough power to be a fun DD. Can easily be had for under $30k, you just have to be patient.

I'll co-sign on this. For the past 3 years I've been daily driving my ISF in the winter and summer, in Edmonton, and it has been solid.

[gpomp]

My 2011 Honda Fit was more engaging to drive than my 2008 ISF.

[ExtraSlow]

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My 2011 Honda Fit was more engaging to drive than my 2008 ISF.