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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    - incentivize physical activity
    - incentivize smoking cessation
    - incentivize/education/media campaign regarding sugars and excessive food intake

    they should be incenvitizing and promoting
    This is discriminatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    fuck socialism - I just mentioned banning microplastics for eg.

    Healthier:

    - incentivize physical activity
    - incentivize smoking cessation
    - incentivize/education/media campaign regarding sugars and excessive food intake

    As far as taxation, how is REDUCING income tax in any way tie in to socialism?

    In a free society we are ALLOWED to make bad/dumb choices however the governments should be incentivizing BETTER choices.

    The government should not run our lives, but they should be incenvitizing and promoting common sense ideals (eg. obese = bad) .
    Your plan wasn't to reduce income tax. It was to reduce income tax AND raise tax on higher end things(which thereby increases tax on the higher income earners, which is socialist)

    Anyway, this is hardly even related to my comment you replied to now.

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    Holy fuck no.

    Reduce corp and personal taxes.

    Increase consumption taxes on durable goods = reduce wanton, mindless consumerism and adjust disposable product mindset of N/A.

    No, its not that simple .... but something along those lines anyway.

    We dont need fucking socialism, we need to adjust and tweak our existing system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    We dont need fucking socialism, we need to adjust and tweak our existing system.
    Yea but the market knows best and is the best regulator and is incapable of error or destructive self-interest. Blah blah blah and you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    Holy fuck no.

    Reduce corp and personal taxes.

    Increase consumption taxes on durable goods = reduce wanton, mindless consumerism and adjust disposable product mindset of N/A.

    No, its not that simple .... but something along those lines anyway.

    We dont need fucking socialism, we need to adjust and tweak our existing system.
    Here's an idea if one wants to get society off of a consumerist lifestyle. Stop allowing people to borrow so much money. It's the same song and dance with the impending housing bubble we are facing. They keep making nonsense rules like decreasing the maximum mortgage term, or increasing the minimum downpayment, increasing interest rate, etc. But it doesn't matter if your mortgage is 200k or 600k, if people are using 70% of their income to float their mortgage payment then they are house broke in both cases.

    If people had to pay cash for most things because they couldn't leverage 100% of their income on debt, then you'd see massive drop in the consumerism you're worried about. But nobody in government will ever come up with legislation like that, because the banks own the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    Here's an idea if one wants to get society off of a consumerist lifestyle. Stop allowing people to borrow so much money. It's the same song and dance with the impending housing bubble we are facing. They keep making nonsense rules like decreasing the maximum mortgage term, or increasing the minimum downpayment, increasing interest rate, etc. But it doesn't matter if your mortgage is 200k or 600k, if people are using 70% of their income to float their mortgage payment then they are house broke in both cases.

    If people had to pay cash for most things because they couldn't leverage 100% of their income on debt, then you'd see massive drop in the consumerism you're worried about. But nobody in government will ever come up with legislation like that, because the banks own the government.
    Agree 100% - but I do think it has to come from both ends, in that Government sets up controls to incentivize better choices for eg. and consumers are also EDUCATED as to the basic pitfalls.

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