Walked by parliament this morning around 9:30, bunch of trucks were all honking their horns in unison. Not sure what they want to prove, but it sure was loud.
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Walked by parliament this morning around 9:30, bunch of trucks were all honking their horns in unison. Not sure what they want to prove, but it sure was loud.
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Loud and annoying - a daily show at Parliament lol
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Im sure they still couldn't be heard over the screaming, fist banging, and foot stomping that happens in that building.
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Only French people really know how to protest.
Cocoa $11,000 per tonne.
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Well, we are screwed. This was the "large convoy" that ended up showing up. I think I saw more people at my last AA meeting.
I'm not sure we can even use the "we work for a living excuse" with how poorly the sector is doing.
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I can eat more hot wings than you.
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What really irritates me is when white nationalists hijack a legitimate grievance for themselves. Faith Goldy was there giving a speech, and told a native counter protester that if he didn't "like our country" he was free to leave. No wonder 7 people showed up, embarrassed to be associated with that clan of nitwits.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I saw on the news today a clip of one of the trucks in the convoy. As a display on the back, it had a yes/no list of what they want. On the "no" list was "UN/Globalism", while the "yes" column said "Pipeline."
Isn't it ironic, that they want pipelines that will allow oil to get to more easily reach international markets, but they protest the very means by which that will happen?
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Globalism from the perspective of no boarders, free movement/immigration/unlimited refugees, giving up sovereignty to higher powers.
The UN and globalism helps approximately fuck all on exporting and importing goods. We should sell as much as we can produce to anyone who buys it, and we should limit global movements to destroy our economy by importing unrealistically cheap goods that punish the lower/working classes by putting them out of jobs.
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I have no idea why refugees and immigration even get mentioned when talking about the pipeline. Why even bring it up? Concentrate on the pipeline...
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A huge part of the pipeline argument is to do with jobs. So it's not really that off course to mention another issue that affects jobs, pay, and taxes in this country.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Well of course you don't, you hate the right and the values/beliefs they have. No need to state the obvious. Its not "just" the pipeline that is the problem, and its not the only issue.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Of course, you'd actually have to listen to what the people are saying, not just read the CBC and imagine in your head how you perceive these people to be. I'm not holding my breath on that.
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And yet they're going to vote in a man who allowed TFW's to proliferate, and wants even more immigrants.
Imported cheap goods benefits the working class - they can now afford the goods. The western working class person now has a massively higher quality of living than at any point in history.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Can't afford the goods if you don't have a job. I'd agree with you if unemployment was zero, but workforce participation is at an all time low and dropping.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I do agree in general cheaper goods ARE better for those with less money. But that is contingent on there being jobs for them.
It has been shown that many lower paying jobs are being driven out of the economy.
But I also think that has to do with bogus minimum wage laws (a living wage in much of this country is below $15/hr, ask any student). But that becomes an argument of entitlements.
In your case, correct me if I am wrong, but you are suggesting all possible production of goods and services should be outsourced if it is cheaper to do so.
So then what? People get paid $15/hr for a reason, because they aren't worth paying more. At some point, there are literally no jobs for these people, and we, the taxpayer, will support them.
If you are paying more for goods that are manufactured domestically, then you are paying for those workers through higher prices anyway. And without the benefit of the market determining where and how the labour supply should be allocated.
This is a classic "specific problem" vs "diffuse benefit" trap that you are falling into. The economic gains as a whole (think rising tide), of cheaper goods is much, much greater than the relatively confined benefit of a protected industry. You are arguing the side of the Canadian milk Cartel, basically. We have seen the quality of life of the average citizen in North America rise dramatically over the past few decades. If labor participation is decreasing, as you say, then people seem to be getting richer but working less on average. Hard to argue that is a negative outcome.
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