Is Trump Doing a good job?

[Tik-Tok]

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And then others look at the social aspects (at a surface level), and assume it's all the current leader's doing, when in reality, most of what is happening now is directly caused by Obama.

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Not directly cause by Obama, a culmination of decades of policy. Governments are like a train, it takes more than one brake to stop them, let alone change direction.

How was my edit relevant enough to mention? Especially considering you didn't reply for 45 minutes, lol.

[HiTempguy1]

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Not directly cause by Obama, a culmination of decades of policy. Governments are like a train, it takes more than one brake to stop them, let alone change direction.

How was my edit relevant enough to mention? Especially considering you didn't reply for 45 minutes, lol.

I had actually opened it to comment, had my post written, and then had to go take care of some actual work.

And it goes to show your mentality. The ones who want to make it sound like things are so difficult and hard to change are the same ones who tear their hair out when Trump does anything they don't want "ermhagerd he is destroying this country".

And no, Obama's policies for 8 years SPECIFICALLY have created the juncture we are at (including the culture wars). Squarely rests on him, America is paying the price for having voted so long for someone who had the destruction of their country and its power at the center of his policy making. Very similar to us dealing with Trudeau right now.

[heavyD]

I didn't vote because there's middle ground. I think he's a buffoon but I don't think his term has been a disaster in the big picture. I don't particularly like him but he's probably met minimum expectations especially when you consider what a disaster the highly touted Trudeau has been for this country nationally and on the world stage. His debacle of a first term may end up costing him his dream future job at the UN but I don't want to sidetrack into Canadian politics. Job growth has remained pretty stable as while not really much of an increase since Obama there's also been no decline so Americans are working and prospering. I believe the current outrage culture and growing left-wing socialist acceptance plays things up as much worse than they really are so if you get past the less important matters and look at big picture it's been an unremarkable term but not terrible.

[Buster]

Trudeau has been vastly more destructive to Canada than Trump could ever be.

Trudeau has the ability to, because the PMO has much, much more power than the President.

[ZenOps]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-t...mmit-1.4310298

[msommers]

Michael Cohen is testifying before Congress today.

[mazdavirgin]

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Trudeau has been vastly more destructive to Canada than Trump could ever be.

I'm not fond of Trudeau but this kind of hyperbole is just nutty. Arguing the dumpster fire down south that is Trump isn't so bad because Trudeau is worse? What in the blazes? Trudeau has hardly done anything... As far as I am concerned he's achieved very little and caused little to no damage. Compare that to Trump and his batshit crazy economic war. How the hell is that even comparable?

[Buster]

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I'm not fond of Trudeau but this kind of hyperbole is just nutty. Arguing the dumpster fire down south that is Trump isn't so bad because Trudeau is worse? What in the blazes? Trudeau has hardly done anything... As far as I am concerned he's achieved very little and caused little to no damage. Compare that to Trump and his batshit crazy economic war. How the hell is that even comparable?

It's not hyperbole at all.

- Americans have issues along political lines, and even geographic lines. But the country is no where near as close to a national unity crisis as Canada is.
- the PMO has much, much more power than the President's office. The PMO can create policy as both the legislative branch and the executive branch that the President could only dream about.
- the SNCL affair has demonstrated the legislative+executive corruption at the highest levels to a degree that would make Hillary or Donald blush.
- Americans will never be truly dis-enfranchised on a regional level because they elect senators with significant power. Canada has vast geographic regions whose votes do not count. Whether this is getting worse or just more obvious is up for debate.

Trump hate is so strong that people neglect to realize that we have it much worse, with a much worse leader - who is vastly stupider as well.

So no, not hyperbole.

[A790]

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It's not hyperbole at all.

- Americans have issues along political lines, and even geographic lines. But the country is no where near as close to a national unity crisis as Canada is.
- the PMO has much, much more power than the President's office. The PMO can create policy as both the legislative branch and the executive branch that the President could only dream about.
- the SNCL affair has demonstrated the legislative+executive corruption at the highest levels to a degree that would make Hillary or Donald blush.
- Americans will never be truly dis-enfranchised on a regional level because they elect senators with significant power. Canada has vast geographic regions whose votes do not count. Whether this is getting worse or just more obvious is up for debate.

Trump hate is so strong that people neglect to realize that we have it much worse, with a much worse leader - who is vastly stupider as well.

So no, not hyperbole.

I'm curious to know how you quantify Trudeau's destructiveness. I have many misgivings for the guy but fall well short of calling him destructive or damaging. I think he's damaged the Libs, but the country itself is fine.

[Mitsu3000gt]

I follow the Trump situation very closely and if nothing else I would recommend these podcasts to anyone interested - they discuss facts, interview relevant law professionals, federal prosecutors, etc:

All The Presidents Lawyers
Mueller, She Wrote
Mueller Time

The first 2 in particular are very well done and very well researched, the third one is more banter.

I find it equally scary as I do hilarious how deep the corruption, incompetence, and Russian meddling runs. This will take years to unpack and I can't wait for the documentary/books. Guys like Mitch McConnel are worse to be honest - famous for filibustering his own bill because his plan backfired to smear Obama. Everyone's focus is on Trump but he's really not the worst of them, he's mostly just a pawn. Guys like Manafort, Stone, McConnel, etc. are worse IMO, and we're seeing that as the indictments continue to drop.

Trump's Tweets and quotes provide equal amounts entertainment and disgust.

I'll leave you with one of Trump's quotes on Miss Teen America:

"“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,”

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

[msommers]

Everyone knows he is a sleazy old man. And yet plenty of women voted for him.

What's amusing is how the US looks on the global stage as of late.

[Buster]

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I'm curious to know how you quantify Trudeau's destructiveness. I have many misgivings for the guy but fall well short of calling him destructive or damaging. I think he's damaged the Libs, but the country itself is fine.

Some things are difficult to quantify in terms of sentiment: national unity, perhaps, and general faith in our institutions. I don't think anyone should question his impact on the first: creating legislation to protect corrupt Quebec organizations while simultaneously creating legislation to punish the West has created a national unity crisis that is no longer just bubbling below the surface with extremists. Alberta separation is a moderate, mainstream opinion at this point.

Canadians aren't just losing faith domestically, the world is losing faith in Canada - our policy decisions (see Butts, Gerald) are having a dramatic impact on how the world views Canada's prospects.



To be fair to Trudeau - many of his policy decisions are simply Butts' policy decisions. And the correct approach to many of the issues would make a politician un-electable. So much of the blame can be laid at the feet of the electorate. Canada's policies on: aboriginal relations (why do we still make policy based on race and why is it considered "progressive" to do so?), carbon emissions, pipelines, etc are what they are. But the electorate needs to understand the cost of taking relatively extreme policy positions, and electing people who are going to do so.

[Kobe]

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Michael Cohen is testifying before Congress today.

I really wonder if the IRS thing is true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-records.html

I changed the link from an unbiased source - but I've only read the headline anyways.

This could be a game changer.


- If anyone thinks that the US leaving the Paris climate agreement is a good idea, I would love to know why?

Sad but true...



If nobody has also seen the "Dirty Money" series on netflix there is a very cool episode on Pharmaceutical companies in the US and why prices are now so high.

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I follow the Trump situation very closely and if nothing else I would recommend these podcasts to anyone interested - they discuss facts, interview relevant law professionals, federal prosecutors, etc:

All The Presidents Lawyers
Mueller, She Wrote
Mueller Time

The first 2 in particular are very well done and very well researched, the third one is more banter.

I find it equally scary as I do hilarious how deep the corruption, incompetence, and Russian meddling runs. This will take years to unpack and I can't wait for the documentary/books. Guys like Mitch McConnel are worse to be honest - famous for filibustering his own bill because his plan backfired to smear Obama. Everyone's focus is on Trump but he's really not the worst of them, he's mostly just a pawn. Guys like Manafort, Stone, McConnel, etc. are worse IMO, and we're seeing that as the indictments continue to drop.

Trump's Tweets and quotes provide equal amounts entertainment and disgust.

I'll leave you with one of Trump's quotes on Miss Teen America:

"“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,”

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

Most press is good press though, where is target demographic will be like "Yahhh" - "FAKE FACT" - 25-34 year olds who are single, college educated, and mid to low income earners."

[SportEL]

Trump has been a really Good President. He's not a politician, and actually keeps his promises. There's been the highest Job numbers due to his Pro-business climate, with high small Busines and consumer confidence levels in a long time, he's eliminating regulations, and lowered taxes for everyone and Corporations, and opening up the energy industry, which is all generating jobs and attracting investment. There has been the lowest unemployment numbers ever for women in 17 years and ever for Blacks and Hispanics. Many are off food stamp rolls than ever before. The US stock market has been noticably better since he got elected. I remember when they said him being elected would tank the economy. He donates his salary every quarter to a different cause.

He is negotiating for better and fair trade deals, got out of the Paris Climate Accord that was just a wealth redistribution climate hoax scam, nominated 2 conservative Supreme Court judges that were voted in, getting the G8 to pay their fair share, fighting for better border security, being against illegal immigration that soaks up the wealth of actual American citizens and brings in drugs, crime, and human trafficking. He has gotten rid of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, eliminating funding for the Pay for Slay Palestinian Authority, and is looking to get the troops out of Syria and Afghanistan. He is getting the respect of North Korea and they haven't done a missile test in a long long time. Instead of syiang he would move the Embassy to Jeresulem like Past Presidents, and not doing it. He actually did it. He has the most women in his cabinet than any Past President, has a Gay Ambassador to Germany, and the most Pro-life President ever.

And why do the Establishment RINOs nd Democrats hate him. Because he can't be controlled, because he isn't a poitician, can't be blackmailed, is Patriotic and loves the country and won't let the country be overrun by illegals, allowing wealth drain and allowing citizens get taxed to hell. They hate him because they no longer have the control of their voter base. Hispanics and Blacks are more and more being supportive of Trump. And most of all they don't like him because he says things like it is.

[googe]

^Weren’t you the one buying the Pizzagate nonsense? I don’t think you have a handle on things down here.

[Misterman]

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- If anyone thinks that the US leaving the Paris climate agreement is a good idea, I would love to know why?

Because a transfer of wealth to the UN, based on anecdotal "science" isn't a benefit to anybody.

[A790]

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Because a transfer of wealth to the UN, based on anecdotal "science" isn't a benefit to anybody.

LOL you conspiritards are all the same.

[Misterman]

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LOL you conspiritards are all the same.

What conspiracy?

[thinmyster]

Because Canada’s contribution to global warming is basically 0

[JRSC00LUDE]

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Because Canada’s contribution to global warming is basically 0

But if we tax the people hard enough we can save the world. Look at all the billions us fat cats can give to developing nations. Figure it out, moran!