Plane Engines and the 737 MAX 8 Accidents

[Tik-Tok]

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Mine still cant use fucking automatic climate control

Setting it to +29 makes it warmer, faster, right?

[benyl]

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So are you guys legitimately afraid of flying on this plane?

It’s probably safer now than any other types.

[killramos]

That’s my thought. I can’t wait for them to come back. It’s a great plane.

And I did fly on one a week after the crashes, heck I feel like I made jokes while on the plane about it to bug my wife. I’m sure this is far from the quirkiest plane that pilots have ever flown with passengers. Pilots will
Manage fine, competent ones at least.

[CompletelyNumb]

https://calgarysun.com/news/world/bo...7-c9d2127d7a0a

More delays? Says "March or later"

[revelations]

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https://calgarysun.com/news/world/bo...7-c9d2127d7a0a

More delays? Says "March or later"

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My theory on the delay: - they (FAA/Boeing) discovered a LOT more engineering and design fuckups that were hidden/brushed aside, and want to minimize any likelyhood of a crash/accident being blamed on the ship itself.

Prediction: I dont believe the MAX will fly until the fall. Even then, there will be a LOT of maintenance to do on ALL the 737s in the global fleet. The pickle fork and weak landing gear issues are just another case of corporate cheap out.

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Im guessing they found MORE single points of failure.

NO doubt Boeing is expecting a long wait if they cancelled the build. I said Fall of 2020 but the ship might not even be flying until 2021.

The back log to fix all the ships sitting around is HUGE. They cannot let a single one go to revenue service until every one of those parked ships is brought up to the same level of safety as FAA/Boeing see it.

[95EagleAWD]

I’ve heard through a friend that AC has to fly their MAX’s for 140 hours before putting them back into revenue service... once they’re ungrounded and all the software fixes are in.

That’s 140 hours of non-rev flying, with 25 aircraft. Plus whatever they’ve got sitting in Seattle’s parking lot.

[revelations]

As suspected, the 787MAX had a laundry list of issues that the FAA was against certifying but caved into Boeings demands.

All were related to certification of legacy systems inherited from the earliest 737 models that were found by FAA technical staff to be noncompliant with the latest safety regulations.

These involved a lack of redundancy in the rudder cables; a too-high surface temperature allowed in the fuel tank; insufficient fireproofing around the plane’s auxiliary power unit in the tail; and using high-power wiring to connect to a switch inside the fuel tank.

All these issues were flagged by safety engineers working at the FAA as requiring fixes before the MAX could be certified.

The MAX won certification anyway after managers on the Boeing side of certification insisted that these were non-issues and managers on the FAA side agreed to let it move ahead with these shortcomings unaddressed.

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...uding-737-max/

[CompletelyNumb]

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As suspected, the 787MAX had a laundry list of issues that the FAA was against certifying but caved into Boeings demands.

FAA: This plane has safety issues.
Boing: C'mon... C'moonnnnnn!
FAA: Ok nevermind, good to go!

Comforting.

[ExtraSlow]

Have I mentioned how much I've enjoyed my flights on the A319/320 birds with United in 2019? Seem to be much nicer passenger experience than any variant of the 737.

[msommers]

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Setting it to +29 makes it warmer, faster, right?

Haha I thought I was alone dealing with this!

[revelations]

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FAA: This plane has safety issues.
Boing: C'mon... C'moonnnnnn!
FAA: Ok nevermind, good to go!

Comforting.

Im guessing it went more like:

FAA - "Hey Boeing, fix the shit on this new airplane please"

BOEING - "Its not a big deal, its been flying around like this for 60 years with these 'defects', plus our engineers spat out some statistics for you to show you how unlikely an event can happen based on these flaws"

FAA - " OK, if you say so!"

[95EagleAWD]

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Have I mentioned how much I've enjoyed my flights on the A319/320 birds with United in 2019? Seem to be much nicer passenger experience than any variant of the 737.

Current MAX issues aside, there’s something about the way the A320 regulates its cabin pressure that seems to be way easier on my ears. When I fly on WJ, my ears usually get plugged. On AC, they don’t.

Anecdotal experience but it’s weird haha!

[ExtraSlow]

I think the seating space in the cabin is a few inches wider too. Or feels that way. Overhead bins seem bigger.

[benyl]

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@CompletelyNumb you will likely get reaccomodated to another aircraft when the schedule is republished. I would guess that will happen in the next week or so.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...0UwnEKN6GuNkh0

yup, I just quoted myself. haha

[vengie]

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Setting it to +29 makes it warmer, faster, right?

Ahhhhh I'm so triggered, this has been a long standing argument with my wife

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Tik-Tok again."

[Maxx Mazda]

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I think the seating space in the cabin is a few inches wider too. Or feels that way. Overhead bins seem bigger.

The A320 series has a tubular fuselage. Doesn’t begin to taper until forward of the front galley. The 737 fuselage begins to taper all the way back at row 4.

[KrisYYC]

Just wait till you guys try the cabin on the A220. Huge overhead bins, big windows, and a 2x3 configuration in Y.

[95EagleAWD]

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Just wait till you guys try the cabin on the A220. Huge overhead bins, big windows, and a 2x3 configuration in Y.

I love 2x3. Don’t have to sit next to anyone.

And yeah I can’t wait for the A220. It’s nice to fly on new airplanes.

[Team_Mclaren]

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Have I mentioned how much I've enjoyed my flights on the A319/320 birds with United in 2019? Seem to be much nicer passenger experience than any variant of the 737.

i disagree, a MAX 8 was great for passengers compares to the older 319/320.unless you're talking about the NEO.

[ExtraSlow]

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i disagree, a MAX 8 was great for passengers compares to the older 319/320.unless you're talking about the NEO.

I'm not a plane nerd, so not sure if I was on neo for those four flights or not.