Alberta 2019 Provincial Election

[kertejud2]

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Need the poor to start paying their fair share in taxes as they pay next to nothing in income taxes (They have a tax advantage in AB).

The poor have the least amount of tax advantage than anybody in this province. It's better to be poor in Ontario and BC. BC has better taxes if you make less than $100K, Ontario if you make less than $115K (but that doesn't take into account PST/HSTs). After that, the Alberta Advantage is there until you make $275K then you have to move to Saskatchewan.

[kertejud2]

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Well they tout that it would mean more people are free to participate in the economy but I think people trying hard to participate in the economy is the problem with high unemployment rate.

Families having $1000+ a month and putting some of that back into the economy also helps quite a bit.

As somebody on CP said, if you're worried about how childcare affects the unemployment rate, then taxing daycare to encourage more parents to stay home and freeing up jobs would the the logical thing to do.

[pheoxs]

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Only way I'm signing off on a PST is if my income tax is flat 5%. Sure as hell ain't wanting a PST just to fund someone else's childcare.

Need the poor to start paying their fair share in taxes as they pay next to nothing in income taxes (They have a tax advantage in AB). A PST would be a good start. The NDP would implement this poorly tho as they would just start cutting PST rebates to them. NO REBATES. There should also be no carbon tax rebates either.

Are you trying to troll? Low income people actually pay more in provincial income tax here than other provinces. Comparing BC to Alberta, BC pays less in income tax until you make over 120k.

Alberta - Personal amount: 19,369$ then taxed at 10% up to 130k
BC - Personal amount: 10,1682 then taxed at 5.06% to 40k and 7.7% until 80k and so on

Anyone making between full time minimum wage and 120k pays more in taxes here than in BC so saying they have a tax advantage here makes no sense.

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Also had a good chuckle at this. Math is hard.

[95EagleAWD]

LOL.
Is it even true?

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[95EagleAWD]

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Yes. He is the official "finance critic" for the UCP. I wonder how many "greats" you have to finish to become one of those.

Less than 68%, probably.

[HiTempguy1]

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Families having $1000+ a month and putting some of that back into the economy

Do you not understand that the $1000 you refer to already came from someone else that would "put it back into the economy"?

Simple yes or no response required.

Except there is additional costs to that $1000 because it was administered by the derp-government. So its even less valuable.

[blitz]

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Is that the part where the legislation would prohibit schools from giving information to parents?

I'm not socially conservative, but that concept is completely stupid.

It's really not. Being a LGBTQ teen with bigot parents is a shitty situation, why can't they be in a club/support network with their peers without their parents being involved?

[lasimmon]

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It's really not. Being a LGBTQ teen with bigot parents is a shitty situation, why can't they be in a club/support network with their peers without their parents being involved?

Because huurr duurrrr parents know best.

[Darell_n]

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Daycare as a social concept is an interesting one. Is it better for society to have one parent work at a relatively high-paying job and have the other parent stay home with the kids, OR is it better to have both parents work at lower wages and send the kids to daycare?

One scenario certainly fits the "socialist" mentality better.

I've been thinking about this daycare proposal a lot, and an alternative would be to pay a wage subsidy to daycare workers of say $5/hr with no cap on their wages and no cap on cost to parents. What this would do is create an abundance of daycare workers and daycare spaces, which would end up bringing costs down. Currently staff turnover in daycares is massive because it's basically fry-cook wages, with more responsibility and stress. Trouble retaining quality employees is part of the reason that there aren't enough daycare spaces and the ones that have a "better" reputation charge $1500/mo to fund the higher wages they pay.

My wife stays at home with the little minions. I enjoyed the couple years of income splitting far more than what this daycare subsidy can bring, as in my wife will still stay home with $25/day daycare.

[Buster]

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It's really not. Being a LGBTQ teen with bigot parents is a shitty situation, why can't they be in a club/support network with their peers without their parents being involved?

Because they are minors, and parents are responsible for minors.

The legislation isn't about kids, or clubs, or anything. Club away kids! It's about whether schools are required to keep secrets from parents.

[HiTempguy1]

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Also had a good chuckle at this. Math is hard.

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I always get a good chuckle at fake news. Easiest way to tell if any article or information is fake is if it does not include a timestamp/date on it.

Even if it is real, its not like the guy makes his own graphics/does his own tweets, and I haven't been able to verify that post was ever made.

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QUOTE=blitz;4787457]It's really not. Being a LGBTQ teen with bigot parents is a shitty situation, why can't they be in a club/support network with their peers without their parents being involved?[/QUOTE]

You are talking about a non-issue. This affects less than 2% of school children, and you make the assumption that every one of those kids parents hate them. What a world you live in.

We're talking making voting decisions based on a situation that affects 0.01% of school children. MAYBE. There is zero evidence that a kid has been abused or punished for being gay or in one of these groups. Its the ultimate non-issue boogeyman, and you lefties lap it up

[blitz]

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Because they are minors, and parents are responsible for minors.

The legislation isn't about kids, or clubs, or anything. Club away kids! It's about whether schools are required to keep secrets from parents.

I don't think you realize how horrible a lot of parents are.

My wife works directly with teenagers in this population, it's rough.

[msommers]

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Because they are minors, and parents are responsible for minors.

The legislation isn't about kids, or clubs, or anything. Club away kids! It's about whether schools are required to keep secrets from parents.

You're a good father and want the best for your kid, probably have open and honest conversations about a ton of stuff. Most parents do. But what if you are a gay 13 year old kid and your parents try to "punch the gay out of you" because they found out from the school that you're going to a club after school that encourages their kid to "be more gay?" I know it sounds like some crazy scenario but it really does happen.

Not me personally but those involved with social services and law enforcement see how many really shitty parents are out there. So if this legislation helps some of those kids by shielding them from their parents' abuse, that's helpful imo.

[Buster]

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You're a good father and want the best for your kid, probably have open and honest conversations about a ton of stuff. Most parents do. But what if you are a gay 13 year old kid and your parents try to "punch the gay out of you" because they found out from the school that you're going to a club after school that encourages their kid to "be more gay?" I know it sounds like some crazy scenario but it really does happen.

Not me personally but those involved with social services and law enforcement see how many really shitty parents are out there. So if this legislation helps some of those kids by shielding them from their parents' abuse, that's helpful imo.

We have laws against beating kids up. That's a criminal issue.

[lasimmon]

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We have laws against beating kids up. That's a criminal issue.

lol

[killramos]

Was just going to say, if only we had laws to do something about POS parents

[Xtrema]

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We have laws against beating kids up. That's a criminal issue.

Tell that to Asian and South Asian parents!

[Buster]

Asians get their own criminal code?