What's a good diy SEO platform?

[heavyfuel]

I've been learning the hard way lately that Godaddy's seo tools do more harm than good, and I don't trust any companies out there seeing as in the past I've rarely gotten anything for my money except some if's and maybe's so I'm looking to re-do my site on another platform altogether. Now wordpress is just way too complicated for my patience level and I've heard not so good things about Wix and Hostgator, so I'm wondering if anyone out there may know of any platforms that are easy to use even for a dumb garbage guy?

Please let me be clear, I'm not interested in hiring anybody or any company to do this, it's been proven in the past that it just doesn't work, so if I'm gonna crash and burn I'll do it all on my own.

[A790]

Squarespace or Shopify are both pretty good out of the box for SEO. Wix is actually much better than it used to be.

[rage2]

SEO is basically a fight between what you understand about google’s algorithms vs google changing it once you know. Game the system enough and you get enough traffic to have a solid base ranking and build from that. That’s literally what good SEO specialists do, figure it out and keep it to themselves, charge clients for the service. I mean it’s not impossible for you to figure it out, but it’s definitely not easy. What might work for one set of keywords might not work for the ones you’re targeting so there is no single magic tool that would work for everything. That and it’s impossible for everyone to be #1.

If you want to get started, sign up on SEO forums, see what others are doing, try to filter out what’s legit and what’s not, and experiment.

[heavyfuel]

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SEO is basically a fight between what you understand about google’s algorithms vs google changing it once you know.

Ahhh see now that's the kind of shit I understand! That makes a whole lot of sense actually.

[ExtraSlow]

My outsiders perspective on SEO was that you'll rank highly of your website actually provides value to users. Spending a bunch of effort and money to "trick" the algorithm seems counterproductive if you could just create better and more engaging content.

[heavyfuel]

Fuck you just can't win no matter who you choose! I spoke to Goddady's seo "specialists" yesterday, I figured I been running my site there for years so why not?

Less than 24hrs after signing up for a starter package my website isn't even on the first 20 pages of Google search results. It was on the first page just a day ago.

Needless to say I called them and demanded a refund and cancelled, and they didn't even try to talk me out of it so they know what they did. I'm just glad it was Godaddy who at least have a decent refund policy and not some greasy local "company". Wow.

What a fuckin scam.

[P_D]

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Fuck you just can't win no matter who you choose! I spoke to Goddady's seo "specialists" yesterday, I figured I been running my site there for years so why not?

Less than 24hrs after signing up for a starter package my website isn't even on the first 20 pages of Google search results. It was on the first page just a day ago.

Needless to say I called them and demanded a refund and cancelled, and they didn't even try to talk me out of it so they know what they did. I'm just glad it was Godaddy who at least have a decent refund policy and not some greasy local "company". Wow.

What a fuckin scam.

You realize that you need to keep constantly pushing out content to increase page hits right? those first 20 pages that lapped you in one day they are doing it, the guy who got his website up and running is doing it, the kid on the otherside of the world that doesnt know you exist is also doing it. Is your facebook, linkedin, twitter, instagram and snap all set up to drive traffic to your website?

[syscal]

"DIY SEO" isn't as easy as it sounds.

You need to have a knack for marketing, some technical ability, and a whole lot of spare time.

There's no one platform that will take poor copy and bounce it to page 1, and no platform that will take good copy and bounce it up either. Your content needs to be relevant, updated regularly, be properly structured (both with that you see as well as what you don't), and optimized for whatever the latest tech is that will get Google's users more relevant information (mobile friendly).

Basically you need enough time to learn this, implement it, and then turn it into a hobby.

Any SEO platform you sign up for is simply a tool that allows you to do these things in less time, but you still have to do them. Starting off with a tool like GoDaddy's is like waving your hand in the air telling the team captain "pick me, pick me!!!!". Yea you'll get their attention, but they're going to pick the jocks first and shuffle you to the back for being weird.

[A790]

Some correct but mostly incorrect information in this thread.

SEO is:

1) Content/UX
2) Backlinks

In that order.

Your content needs to quickly and accurately answer the question the user asked Google. It needs to provide in-depth information. Your site needs to load fast and be awesome on mobile.

Vince, you've changed your website 3 times in the past year. You've stripped all the valuable content off your front page. You keep "resetting the clock", so to speak, because you aren't letting Google digest the changes to the website and collect data on user behaviour.

Your homepage should:
1) Introduce your service
2) Provide a meaningful next step
3) Outline what you remove/why
4) Outline your recycling/diversion/etc. processes
5) Showcase some of your reviews and link back to GMB/FB/etc (or wherever your reviews are coming from)

How often you update content is irrelevant. You are not a news provider and your business isn't topical. Ignore that advice.

Focus on this: what are my competitors doing well that I am not? Fix the gaps.

Then, once you've fixed the site, connect with local influencers (bloggers/IG people/etc.) and work out some kind of ad campaign/promotion that gets your business mentioned on their platform. Do this 1-2 times a quarter for the next year.

Do the above. It will reclaim your rankings.

[heavyfuel]

^^ some good advice, but social media in my line of work is a WASTE OF TIME. Joe Stockbroker with the Doctor wife and 2 kids in private school and a 6000sq ft house doesn't care or have time, to read about some company like mine taking a truckload of stuff to Goodwill lol plus, there's no way those kinds of people want their "friends" and followers to know they follow a garbage company, that's just the reality of it.

I have Instafake, Fakebook and Twitt-er all leading up to my site, yes but no posts, followers, contents, nothing. Just free links.

Don't get me started with social media lol

I think my website is pretty damn good, my online booking form can't get any simpler and my price list is straight forward and right there, unlike all these companies that make you fill out booking forms before you can see it.

[A790]

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^^ some good advice, but social media in my line of work is a WASTE OF TIME. Joe Stockbroker with the Doctor wife and 2 kids in private school and a 6000sq ft house doesn't care or have time, to read about some company like mine taking a truckload of stuff to Goodwill lol plus, there's no way those kinds of people want their "friends" and followers to know they follow a garbage company, that's just the reality of it.

I have Instafake, Fakebook and Twitt-er all leading up to my site, yes but no posts, followers, contents, nothing. Just free links.

Don't get me started with social media lol

I didn't say social media Vince. I said influencers. Because you want the brand mention/backlinks that they will give you. Because that is the second most important part of SEO.

Whether you are on social media or not is totally irrelevant. None of what you said in this post has anything to do with what I told you. Don't ignore my advice: action it and fix your shit.

[msommers]

That's really good advice, much appreciated Cam!

[heavyfuel]

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I didn't say social media Vince. I said influencers. Because you want the brand mention/backlinks that they will give you. Because that is the second most important part of SEO.

Whether you are on social media or not is totally irrelevant. None of what you said in this post has anything to do with what I told you. Don't ignore my advice: action it and fix your shit.

Influencers? Like those fuckin idiots who gain 50K followers each time they post a new pair of shoes? I'm supposed to get those types to give a fuck?

I'm confused

[A790]

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Influencers? Like those fuckin idiots who gain 50K followers each time they post a new pair of shoes? I'm supposed to get those types to give a fuck?

I'm confused

You make them give a fuck by paying them for advertising.

Find local websites/influencers, pay them for advertising, get backlinks, improve your SEO.

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That's really good advice, much appreciated Cam!

Is what I do. Currently have 93 SMB sites and 31 large content sites under management.

It's all I really know how to do. The day SEO dies is the day I'm fucked lol

[heavyfuel]

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You make them give a fuck by paying them for advertising.

Find local websites/influencers, pay them for advertising, get backlinks, improve your SEO.

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Is what I do. Currently have 93 SMB sites and 31 large content sites under management.

It's all I really know how to do. The day SEO dies is the day I'm fucked lol

I'd rather piss one of them off and let them try to destroy me lol

That way I can go viral, it's free and I have nothing to lose anyways, and my best clientele over the years all had one thing in common- the ability to see through the internet's bullshit


What I do is really all I know how to do too... I often look at job postings and it's like a big black void... qualified or not there isn't a fuckin thing out there that makes me wanna get outta bed in the morning. But I'm still wide awake at 6 am hoping for a better day than yesterday.

[A790]

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This is bad, and I go down I'm not going alone that's all I know for now

What are you saying with this bud? Be specific.

[heavyfuel]

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What are you saying with this bud? Be specific.

Make of it what you will, do what you will with it, it doesn't really matter.

This is a perfect opportunity to completely destroy me, those who've been waiting to see me fail, here it is on a silver platter.

This SEO shit means nothing really, fact of the matter is I just don't give a fuck about what I do anymore, and since it's all I know how to do, well I got me a problem.

Nothing lasts forever.

You know you're a fuckin loser when, people won't even trust you with their garbage haha

Ok it's gym time fuck this bullshit

[bjstare]

Sweet Jesus, this thread should have ended with Post #10 being "Thanks for the great (free) professional advice."

[heavyfuel]

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Sweet Jesus, this thread should have ended with Post #10 being "Thanks for the great (free) professional advice."

A lot of things "should have", "should be" but life sucks man haha

[P_D]

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A lot of things "should have", "should be" but life sucks man haha

Between this thread and the other one for social media its pretty obvious that there is a single problem you cant figure out.

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM

You need a good psychologist more then anything else.