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    Mercedes MCT is pretty good as a happy medium between ZF and a DCT. Essentially it’s a good auto with a wet startup clutch instead of a torque converter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilDrunkenSmurf View Post
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    The VW DSG is pretty awesome. I assume that also translates over to Audi.
    Yup + launch control = coolest ever

    well back in the day some girls thought it was kinda cool if you had a manual car

    The Honda 6 speed s2k/nsx na2 so smooth. I miss that.
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    When I bought my kid a car a few years back I told him only if it was a standard.

    Driving a stick shift is a skill everyone should have.

    Now he's away at college and I have a jeep in front of my house that barely gets driven.

    Oh well my other son will be 16 in a few months. he can learn as well.
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    Few more years, and that'll be the same as saying "I'm making my kids learn math on an abacus, it's a skill everyone should have".

    I mean, I learned to drive stick when I was like 10... but times are changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I have a variant of the ZF 8 speed in my Audi. It is way better than other automatics, but I still find it not that great. For an SUV it is ok, but I'd be really unhappy with it in a sports car.
    I was hesitant before I made the move from S3 to S5 and I don't doubt that I would feel the difference if I was to drive them back to back. I have the ZF for a year now and I haven't had one negative thought about not having the DSG. I almost exclusively drive it in manual mode. I can only speak on the ZF in the S5. I don't have any experience with the ZF in other cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmira View Post
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    I was hesitant before I made the move from S3 to S5 and I don't doubt that I would feel the difference if I was to drive them back to back. I have the ZF for a year now and I haven't had one negative thought about not having the DSG. I almost exclusively drive it in manual mode. I can only speak on the ZF in the S5. I don't have any experience with the ZF in other cars.
    My car (Lexus ISF) has a ZF8 in it, and it's fantastic. Can be full old man mode, super smooth, early shifts, great mileage. Hit a couple buttons and it can bang off shifts in 0.1s at WOT, rev match and bark on downshifts, etc. I'm positive there are DCT/DSGs out there that are better, but it ain't by much... or at least not enough that will matter in a DD application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I have a variant of the ZF 8 speed in my Audi. It is way better than other automatics, but I still find it not that great. For an SUV it is ok, but I'd be really unhappy with it in a sports car.
    Software on it determines how it feels. The same transmission in a sportier car would have much sportier programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    Nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwslam View Post
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    I thought you ride around in a stick shift often... more than most of us around here anyways...
    I see what you did thurrrr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I have a variant of the ZF 8 speed in my Audi. It is way better than other automatics, but I still find it not that great. For an SUV it is ok, but I'd be really unhappy with it in a sports car.
    It’s not particularly great in my Dodge truck either, but I’m sure the Chrysler software engineers are the bottom feeders in North America.

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    I dont miss it at all, 6 of my personal vehicles are manuals. I just love being able to pick and choose the gears, although I despise it in stop and go traffic, My foot or hand often get tired from constantly actuating the clutch in those situations. Two of my trucks have auto's with manual valve bodies, which I greatly prefer. I'd prefer auto's for the semi's though, driving the 9,13,15 or 18 speeds gets old, very very fast.
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    Has anyone run into issues regarding reliability and potential repair costs living with a DSG/DCT post-warranty?

    Just wondering if that should be a serious concern. (Currently eying the mk7.5 Golf R as a contender for my next DD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darell_n View Post
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    It’s not particularly great in my Dodge truck either, but I’m sure the Chrysler software engineers are the bottom feeders in North America.
    Tuning obviously has to be different in something that idiots will try and tow over payload with, and it still needs to last through the warranty period. Not to mention a truck is not a sports car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane View Post
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    Has anyone run into issues regarding reliability and potential repair costs living with a DSG/DCT post-warranty?

    Just wondering if that should be a serious concern. (Currently eying the mk7.5 Golf R as a contender for my next DD).
    Haven't heard any nightmare stories. Have an acquaintance who has an early GTI with DSG, crapped out at around 180k kms and got a used replacement installed for around $1k.
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    Nothing... Im whipping around a 6spd 335i for the summer and its awesome.

    I just love having the extra bit of control/connection with the transmission through the clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    Not to mention a truck is not a sports car.
    Don’t tell that to most of Calgary and Red Deer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane View Post
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    Has anyone run into issues regarding reliability and potential repair costs living with a DSG/DCT post-warranty?

    Just wondering if that should be a serious concern. (Currently eying the mk7.5 Golf R as a contender for my next DD).
    I'm all over driving German cars out of warranty. I changed the fluid in my Audi S-tronic transmission last year (70,000ish km) and it was pristine. Most of my time driving is on the Henday, so it's a blast up the gears then leave it in 7th for most of the drive. I think I'm pretty easy on it, but if you don't appreciate that there are clutches in there and abuse it, I'm sure you could shorten the life. To me all transmissions are magic boxes that should never be opened in my presence, so if it does crap out I'll swap a new one in and then deal with the old unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Haven't heard any nightmare stories. Have an acquaintance who has an early GTI with DSG, crapped out at around 180k kms and got a used replacement installed for around $1k.
    That’s amazing. I assumed some of these DCTs have 5-digit replacement costs (new).

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    You are way more likely to lose the engine than the DSG in a GTI.
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