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    Default Who has the best CVT...?

    I just cooked a lovey meal and I had a the new 2020 Outback Car review running in the background.

    It got me thinking, who makes the best CVT engine in terms of reliability and in which model..? (Japan) Are there any others that may not be as robust but more punchy in performance..?

    Im not fully sold on the CVT. Its the future though.
    Ive driven my friends CrossTrek and a new CRV. I have this image of a skinny belt powering the wheels in my head. I kow actually does not work like that. Maybe its just me. I can't get my head around it.

    And why have Ze Germans not gone this route..?

    Nissan seems to get a lot of hate.
    Thoughts.?

    I found this on Quora:
    https://www.quora.com/What-company-m...T-transmission

    There is no the “best”.

    Jatco is the largest, they make several different transmission types, but much of their volume is devoted to CVTs for Nissan cars. They are majority owned by Nissan, and supply Mitsubishi and Suzuki as well, and have supplied Chrysler/Jeep/FCA for a number of years. They have the most market share of any manufacturer, and mostly focus on CVTs these days. Depending on which one of their press releases you read, they make anywhere from 30–50% of all the CVTs sold in cars in the world.

    Don Sutton referred to Aisin, which makes a few different models that are focused mostly on moderate torque gas engines, as well as the entire CVT kit for things like the Prius and other companies hybrids. Aisin is partially owned by Toyota.

    Honda makes their own, and they are unusual in this respect. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that Honda will move their CVT to their smallest cars at some point, as they have widely publicized their coming 11 speed dual clutch autoshifter.

    These are the major manufacturers of CVTs, as they are not widely used outside of the Japanese industry. Most of the German companies are no longer focusing on CVTs, but rather focusing on more multi speed dual clutch autoshifters.

    The CVT equipped cars in tiny cars have done fairly well, as they have in Hybrids. But in mid size cars and up, they haven’t really succeeded as widely as in the smaller city cars and hybrids.

    If I had to handicap the most mature CVTs made by one company, I’d have to say Jatco, and probably Aisin next. Jatco has the broadest lineup and the most units deployed, which means they have the most field experience and therefore, likely the best reliability over the long term. Aisin also has made plenty, but their most successful transmissions are focused on Hybrids, especially the Prius.

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    The Germans haven't gone this route, because it's not the way of the future IMO.

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    CVT’s are terrible...
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    Fucking terrible

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    Just plain garbage

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    Rubber band transmissions... Lets rev that motor up and then GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    Hated that feeling about them lol... All rev and no go.

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    Bombardier or Polaris comes to mind

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    They sound terrible especially on lower end cars. The only CVT I don't hate is when it was paired with Nissan's VQ35** engines. I don't like it but I don't hate it.

    2019/20 Toyota Corolla's CVT is supposed to have a physical launch gear, probably will minimize the hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentry View Post
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    Bombardier or Polaris comes to mind
    I don't know about Can-am, but Polaris' CVT has always been rock solid for me. My wife has a CRV with the CVT, I hate driving it personally, but no issues mechanically.

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    None of them are great but Honda does a pretty good job with them, based on the ones I've driven, in terms of not driving like a sponge and/or simulating gears. Nissan's are OK too but only on the bigger motors.

    They make sense on econoboxes or other generic vehicles where 99% of the buyers don't even know what a transmission is or what it's supposed to feel like. On cars like the WRX it is a disaster IMHO.

    My parents have a Murano with a CVT and while a regular 6spd auto or whatever would have been preferable, it's really not that bad at all for what it is - much better than years past and there is no rubber band effect. It's also been rock solid reliability-wise.

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    This is like asking what is the most reliable Italian auto manufacturer.

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    So a lot of hate on the CVT's...

    But why the hate..? Care to elaborate...Is it just the acceleration, noise..?
    Are they really that unreliable..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytiger55 View Post
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    So a lot of hate on the CVT's...

    But why the hate..? Care to elaborate...Is it just the acceleration, noise..?
    Are they really that unreliable..?
    The bad ones are pretty awful to drive (like driving a sponge or elastic band), but you should go try one yourself as some are a lot better than others. Reliability is also much better than it used to be, but they are still probably more prone to failure than a well built normal AT. What I don't like is a CVT being the sole option for automatic in a lot cars these days, but it is a trend that doesn't seem to be going anywhere and other than Nissan and Subaru, is thankfully limited to on econo-boxes for the most part. A CVT in the WRX is a crime IMHO haha.

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