2019 Canadian Federal Election thread - polls and discussion.

[AndyL]

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Kitimat projects are all LNG not crude oil

Kitimat clean was to be a 400,000 barrels per day raw bitumen to refined fuel project. That doesn't sound like LNG....

[sabad66]

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Kitimat clean was to be a 400,000 barrels per day raw bitumen to refined fuel project. That doesn't sound like LNG....

Just looked into and looks like it’s a refinery project. So again, no oil tankers. It would export refined product not crude
http://www.kitimatclean.ca/fast-facts-2/

[Brent.ff]

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Just looked into and looks like it’s a refinery project. So again, no oil tankers. It would export refined product not crude
http://www.kitimatclean.ca/fast-facts-2/

they're also looking at shipping bitumen pucks out of rupert..

[AndyL]

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Just looked into and looks like it’s a refinery project. So again, no oil tankers. It would export refined product not crude
http://www.kitimatclean.ca/fast-facts-2/

The tanker ban doesnt differentiate between crude versus refined...

[Tik-Tok]

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The tanker ban doesnt differentiate between crude versus refined...

It actually does. Crude oil and persistent oil products over 12,500 metric tons is banned, and most refined products aren't in that category.

[dirtsniffer]

Remember Andy, they don't want to kill all industries. Only ours.

[AndyL]

Silly me believing ottawa citizen article said tankers over 12500.

Wonder how many trains need to fall into the watershed delivering crude by rail before that changes...

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Wonder how many trains need to fall into the watershed delivering crude by rail before that changes...

In whose watershed? Take any Quebec village - incinerate it with a rail disaster and they'll elect another pipeline denier.


Trains are le safe!


Ne pas du pipelines!
Vive le rail!!

[AndyL]

Haha...

https://business.financialpost.com/c...town-in-alaska

A First Nations’ led $17-billion project to build an oil pipeline from Alberta to the West Coast has put in motion a back-up plan to site its terminal across the border in Alaska to get around an imminent oil tanker ban in British Columbia’s northern coast.

[davidI]

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Big cities in the East must put some sort of Liberal Kool-Aid in their tap water.

[rage2]

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Big cities in the East must put some sort of Liberal Kool-Aid in their tap water.

That's the case everywhere. It's like that in the US with the dems. It's what happens when you group educated and wealthy (relatively) people together.

[Cagare]

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That's the case everywhere. It's like that in the US with the dems. It's what happens when you group educated and wealthy (relatively) people together.

So why is it different in Calgary? I thought this was one of the more educated City's in the Country and relatively wealthy?

[kertejud2]

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Big cities in the East must put some sort of Liberal Kool-Aid in their tap water.

[killramos]

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So why is it different in Calgary? I thought this was one of the more educated City's in the Country and relatively wealthy?

Depends on level of education in math versus social sciences.

[rage2]

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So why is it different in Calgary? I thought this was one of the more educated City's in the Country and relatively wealthy?

Generally speaking, Calgary has a small city mentality, opposed to change, and inability to adapt. Working with local companies over the last decades, it's hilarious to see how tough it is to enact change in corporate culture across Calgary organizations. O&G clearly are the worst at it, I remember my early years sales people trying to sell the concept of time tracking software, and they'd prefer to not change and rely on a team of 10 people managing paper timesheets. We try to hire software developers coming from O&G backgrounds and they have this complacent attitude that just doesn't fit our culture. When the money is easy, it's tempting to not rock the boat, and keep the gravy train pouring. It promotes laziness, and trickles down to everything else.

I'm going to guess this applies to Alberta not just Calgary.

[pheoxs]

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Generally speaking, Calgary has a small city mentality, opposed to change, and inability to adapt. Working with local companies over the last decades, it's hilarious to see how tough it is to enact change in corporate culture across Calgary organizations. O&G clearly are the worst at it, I remember my early years sales people trying to sell the concept of time tracking software, and they'd prefer to not change and rely on a team of 10 people managing paper timesheets. We try to hire software developers coming from O&G backgrounds and they have this complacent attitude that just doesn't fit our culture. When the money is easy, it's tempting to not rock the boat, and keep the gravy train pouring. It promotes laziness, and trickles down to everything else.

I'm going to guess this applies to Alberta not just Calgary.

Pretty much sums up most places I've done work with too

[suntan]

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Generally speaking, Calgary has a small city mentality, opposed to change, and inability to adapt. Working with local companies over the last decades, it's hilarious to see how tough it is to enact change in corporate culture across Calgary organizations. O&G clearly are the worst at it, I remember my early years sales people trying to sell the concept of time tracking software, and they'd prefer to not change and rely on a team of 10 people managing paper timesheets. We try to hire software developers coming from O&G backgrounds and they have this complacent attitude that just doesn't fit our culture. When the money is easy, it's tempting to not rock the boat, and keep the gravy train pouring. It promotes laziness, and trickles down to everything else.

I'm going to guess this applies to Alberta not just Calgary.

How much experience do you have with companies out east? And union shops?

[rage2]

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How much experience do you have with companies out east? And union shops?

Tons. Across Canada and US.

[Buster]

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Generally speaking, Calgary has a small city mentality, opposed to change, and inability to adapt. Working with local companies over the last decades, it's hilarious to see how tough it is to enact change in corporate culture across Calgary organizations. O&G clearly are the worst at it, I remember my early years sales people trying to sell the concept of time tracking software, and they'd prefer to not change and rely on a team of 10 people managing paper timesheets. We try to hire software developers coming from O&G backgrounds and they have this complacent attitude that just doesn't fit our culture. When the money is easy, it's tempting to not rock the boat, and keep the gravy train pouring. It promotes laziness, and trickles down to everything else.

I'm going to guess this applies to Alberta not just Calgary.

It's not Calgary or Alberta. It's Canada.

Canadians aren't innovators or risk takers. Never have been never will be.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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How much experience do you have with companies out east? And union shops?

I was going to say sounds just like a Union hahaha