2019 Canadian Federal Election thread - polls and discussion.

[arcticcat522]

How do I find that to email to my sister? I don't have the Facebook

[Brent.ff]

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There is another sentiment out here that likely resonates with our fellow Canadians from Quebec. If you asked the average Albertan if they would support separation 2 years ago, you’d be laughed at. Today it is no laughing matter. At the time of the provincial election only a few months ago, it was estimated that 50% of Albertans were open to separation. A poll of 6000+ Albertans only a week ago yielded the same results. We’ve been beaten into submission by the federal Liberals, and we continue to get kicked. Terms like ‘Western Alienation’, ‘Republic of Alberta’ and ‘Wexit’ have become very common. All too often you see ‘Liberal on Oct 21, Separatist on Oct 22’. This movement is real. I mean, REAL. If another Liberal government is elected, even worse a Liberal minority with the Green or NDP propping it up, Alberta’s energy sector will just board up the windows and go elsewhere. It will be crippling for the entire nation. It is ALREADY crippling for Alberta. We can’t take any more of this. We are the victims of a current Legislated Recession and it will only get worse. Half of us want to leave now. More will want to leave if we continue to be exploited for our revenue and vilified for our industry.

Alberta separation would be a crushing blow to this country and its economy, but it doesn’t have to be this way. Albertans are resilient, wholesome, hard-working people that have been happy to help our fellow Canadian citizens maintain a high standard of living. We’re only asking for reciprocation. We don’t want hand-outs, tax revenue, or power. We want the right and ability to do what we’ve been doing all along, without having fellow Canadians standing in our way. We’re a part of the solution, not the problem.

Fellow Canadians, please consider this when casting your ballot. There’s a lot at stake for everyone. There is a fragility in this nation that could be fractured with stroke of a pen, and the power rests firmly in the hands of your provinces. Vote wisely. Vote Canadian.

Signed,

Alberta[/I]

Annnnnd then the mention of separation kills the entire blurb..

[94boosted]

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How do I find that to email to my sister? I don't have the Facebook

Sorry, not sure, showed up in my feed this morning.

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Annnnnd then the mention of separation kills the entire blurb..

True

[Tik-Tok]

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Annnnnd then the mention of separation kills the entire blurb..

I thought the "rough times and high unemployment" part killed it. Albertans have had it easy compared to Ontarios downturns. This won't garner any sympathy, regardless of the economic facts.

[pheoxs]

At the time of the provincial election only a few months ago, it was estimated that 50% of Albertans were open to separation.

Whoever wrote that letter is delusional as fuck

[ExtraSlow]

As somewhat of a communication expert, that's far too fucking long. 400 words max. That's it I'm voting green.

[nzwasp]

Has Canada ever had an election end with a coalition? I feel like since I've lived here its always been a majority or a party with a minority but never a coalition. Coalitions are something I am very very used to in NZ where I was born. How pissed are the PC's going to be if they win a minority but all the other parties team up and gang bang them with their coalition. Or is that not how it works?

[lasimmon]

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Has Canada ever had an election end with a coalition? I feel like since I've lived here its always been a majority or a party with a minority but never a coalition. Coalitions are something I am very very used to in NZ where I was born. How pissed are the PC's going to be if they win a minority but all the other parties team up and gang bang them with their coalition. Or is that not how it works?

If the PC's don't win a majority there is probably a less than 5% then will form government.

In the event no majority is elected the incumbent gets first crack to form government.

Generally it hasn't been close so that doesn't happen, but I suspect this time it will be.

[dirtsniffer]

God help us

[ExtraSlow]

Coalitions are unpopular, and voters tend to move thier votes to increase the chance of a majority government.
We haven't had a federal coalition government in Canada since the 1800's. I think one would be unstable and, and would likely result in another election.

[Darkane]

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Coalitions are unpopular, and voters tend to move thier votes to increase the chance of a majority government.
We haven't had a federal coalition government in Canada since the 1800's. I think one would be unstable and, and would likely result in another election.

I truly believe a coalition govt will happen. I just pray we grab a majority.

That said, JT is a weak leader and what will happen will be one of two things:

1) he’ll be the spoiled brat and not work well at all with Singh

2) he’ll be strong armed by May and we’re closed for business. Lol but for real, Singh will strong arm him.

See you guys on the flip side.

[ExtraSlow]

Minority government or coalition would probably trigger a leadership review of BOTH main parties.

[sabad66]

anyone see this article? https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...d-ruin-alberta

pretty scary the Bloc's position on pipelines and also wanting to add a new climate change equalization thing. Pretty much any coalition with the Libs at this point seems like it could be disastrous for AB.

[killramos]

Only Quebec could push for more equalization payments going to them with a straight face.

#con-fail-deration

[Buster]

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anyone see this article? https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...d-ruin-alberta

pretty scary the Bloc's position on pipelines and also wanting to add a new climate change equalization thing. Pretty much any coalition with the Libs at this point seems like it could be disastrous for AB.

On a related note, I found a picture of an Alberta Federalist.

[killramos]

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On a related note, I found a picture of an Alberta Federalist.

[ZenOps]

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Honestly, as previously stated, it's probably a good thing. It will force the cons to switch leaders in a year or so when the next election is forced. Maybe bring in someone I'd actually want to vote for.


So far as Obama is concerned, I thought he was a great leader of the USA, but his opinion on Canadian elections holds zero sway with me. Who the fuck would it sway?

Impressionable 20 something females with a black dadduh complex? It is a democracy afterall, a SJW has just as much power as a billionaire. One vote each.

[rage2]

I don't care who gets voted in, as long as we don't get that car luxury tax.

[95EagleAWD]

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Is it legal for foreign politicians to attempt to influence Canadian voters?

Obama isn’t a foreign politician anymore.

[spikerS]

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I truly believe a coalition govt will happen. I just pray we grab a majority.

That said, JT is a weak leader and what will happen will be one of two things:

1) he’ll be the spoiled brat and not work well at all with Singh

2) he’ll be strong armed by May and we’re closed for business. Lol but for real, Singh will strong arm him.

See you guys on the flip side.

THis happened not so long ago in the recent past.

The Conservatives under Harper won a minority government, and the Liberals, Block, and NDP immediately formed a coalition. The THEN governor-general Michaelle Jean asked Harper to form the new government which Harper did. Faced with the NDP and Liberals forming the coalition, Harper then prorogued government with the blessing of GG Jean. Harper successfully prorogued government for ~ 2 months and in this time the liberals ousted then-leader Dion and appointed Ignatieff as their leader. Most of the country hated the idea of the coalition government and event and in the following election, Harper was given a majority government.

I see a scenario like this happening again. I don't expect anything to really happen or get accomplished in the next few years.