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    I almost bought a model 3 when my E53 was delayed. I didn’t plan on tracking it. Would’ve autox’d it though. It was mega fun on the streets, straight line and cornering, way more than my E53. The creature comforts was shit though, same with using an iPhone with it for music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Battery costs are the killer today. With that said, ICE has been so optimized, I'd argue a high efficiency electric motor today is more complicated to build than a basic ICE.
    What he said.
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    An analogy.

    Oilfield pumps. Chevy 350 vs electric motor with vfd
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88CRX View Post
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    I thought the OP was out to lunch by even asking the question.... but apparently everyone is on board with driving electric cars in the immediate future and I'm out to lunch.

    Who knew
    I was thinking the same thing. Everyone here wants their next car to be electric and here I am wanting to buy a Trackhawk.
    I like neat cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    I was thinking the same thing. Everyone here wants their next car to be electric and here I am wanting to buy a Trackhawk.
    I will end up with a self-driving vehicle one day. Its just too good to pass up, esp. for longer road trips.

    This would be wicked - but we would need smart roads to guarantee safety in all conditions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    For long road trips? In that scenario why wouldn't you just fly?
    I don't think he's talking about 10+ hour distances. Shit like Edmonton, where flying doesn't save you any time, but its still annoying as hell to do.

    I used to have meetings in Whitecourt and Edson really regularly, and self driving would have been amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    For long road trips? In that scenario why wouldn't you just fly?
    Maybe because it is 10 times the cost? Same reason people still drive long distances today.


    As for charging logistics, the only viable solution I see for these EV's, is they would have to have some type of solar charger integrated into the roof, so that charging stops just aren't required unless it is inclement weather. I can't see people stopping for an hour twice on their way to BC, it's already a 9 hour trek to Kelowna.
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    9 hour trek to Kelowna? You are most definitely doing something wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedog View Post
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    9 hour trek to Kelowna? You are most definitely doing something wrong.
    I'd say you're reading my location wrong more than likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88CRX View Post
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    I thought the OP was out to lunch by even asking the question.... but apparently everyone is on board with driving electric cars in the immediate future and I'm out to lunch.

    Who knew
    You're not. Most estimates I've seen out there are 50% market share for EVs by 2040. I wouldn't call that immediate.

    There are some auto journalists that believe EV won't actually even go anywhere past this initial hype.

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    I consider myself an early adopter and definitely not the norm.

    There's a long way to go before mass EV adoption. I also believe we won't see a big shift until we crack the code on better energy storage solutions, either a better (cheaper/lighter) battery, or HFC + supercapacitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    For long road trips? In that scenario why wouldn't you just fly?
    Honestly, the appeal of flying for some of these trips (eg, to visit family, in Salmon Arm) is now nullified as you are sitting in a vehicle relaxing, just like in an airplane.

    I wouldnt go to Vancouver like that, but I can see the 6 hour trips in the summer being 'driven' more now.

    Also with supercharging ports and longer range, the actual charging concerns will be minimized.

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    Flying is such a pain in the dick too. You are on someone else's schedule, and you can count on 3 hours wasted time plus whatever the actual flight takes. And if you are going to need a car at the other end, add in that expense. I'd take an automomous car even if it was slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    Yeah I can understand that. The main reason I don't fly to Calgary is because the logistics of trying to get where I'm going once I land are a nightmare.

    In Vancouver though the Skytrain runs right to the terminal. It only takes me like 15 minutes to get home. If the City of Calgary would get their shit together and run the train to the airport it would make it a lot easier for people to get around. Not everyone can afford 80$ cab rides.
    And Edmonton is even worse than Calgary.

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    I ordered my Model S last July and received it in October, I didn't think I would like it as much as I do. I don't think we're close to EV taking over, but it's definitely headed in that direction. North American lacks so much infrastructure that it will be 15+ years before an EV is at that level.

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    My own condo building is looking at putting in an electric charger... but there is well over 100 residents. I've already spotted more than a dozen electric cars in the parkade. That is already too much to try and share a single charger with. It is just going to be a huge source of frustration for them IMO.
    My condo building installed new panels and I had an electrician run a 240v/50amp plug to my parking spots. I get around 40klm/hr charge rate. It's not supercharger speeds, but it's enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlude View Post
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    My condo building installed new panels and I had an electrician run a 240v/50amp plug to my parking spots. I get around 40klm/hr charge rate. It's not supercharger speeds, but it's enough for me.
    Of the early Tesla owners I know, overkill for home charging was the mistake that everyone seems to make early on, buying dual chargers in early cars etc. You really don't need uber fast charging at home, as you're typically at home for 10h+ a day. More than enough time to charge for daily driving, even in the worst of winter. Fast charging also decreases the life of the battery, so it's better to charge at the slowest rate at home to match your driving patterns.

    There's pretty much 0 need for supercharging speeds at home.
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