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    Quote Originally Posted by sabad66 View Post
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    is it actually illegal though? what if we make the prize worth the exact same $ collected with no profit?

    i.e. $1000 costco gift card, sell 40 raffle tickets at $25, no extra money for anyone to declare as income.
    Doesn't matter. The implications aren't a CRA tax avoidance scheme. It is an illegal raffle as per AGLC. If it's random and you're not registered as a non profit with a lottery license, it's illegal.

    However, far as I can tell from the laws, if you just made it so your purchase bought you a skill testing question that unlocked an entry to the draw, and only correct answers could get entered. Then it becomes legal because it's a contest of skill not complete randomness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I think it is still considered illegal because you are circumventing the AGLC, which is the governing body regulating for gaming in Alberta

    It isn't just income, it is gambling income... so it is subject to a ton of sin taxes. The other danger is that somebody in your FB group isn't legally old enough to Gamble.

    You have to have some sort of reasonable method to determine age to prevent that in place. Kids today could whip up a fake facebook page like nothing. Haha, can you imagine the shit storm if one of these big waffles goes to deliver a 70K car and a 13 year old answers the door.
    I would have thought AGLC only comes into play with a cash prize.

    Just did a quick google and i guess gift raffles technically would need to be registered:
    https://aglc.ca/gaming/licences/raffle-20000-and-less

    more trouble than it's worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I think it is still considered illegal because you are circumventing the AGLC, which is the governing body regulating for gaming in Alberta

    It isn't just income, it is gambling income... so it is subject to a ton of sin taxes. The other danger is that somebody in your FB group isn't legally old enough to Gamble.

    You have to have some sort of reasonable method to determine age to prevent that in place. Kids today could whip up a fake facebook page like nothing. Haha, can you imagine the shit storm if one of these big waffles goes to deliver a 70K car and a 13 year old answers the door.
    Gambling income isn't taxable, unless you're winning a ton of waffles, there's no problem there. Poker players have problems with it when it becomes a near full time job.

    It's the hosting of it that's a problem, as it bypasses AGLC shit. Which is why we can't host one here.

    You can always change it up a little though, like those house ones where the AGLC has deemed it legal. But that means the person hosting has to choose the winner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Gambling income isn't taxable, unless you're winning a ton of waffles, there's no problem there. Poker players have problems with it when it becomes a near full time job.

    It's the hosting of it that's a problem, as it bypasses AGLC shit. Which is why we can't host one here.

    You can always change it up a little though, like those house ones where the AGLC has deemed it legal.
    I think he was talking about the income that the organizer makes. ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I thought that a certain percentage of gambling profits has to go to charity... like 50% or something
    In Alberta, the only people who can run gambling are charities. you need be, or partner with, a charity to even get the gaming license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjblair View Post
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    No, these are just raffles. Waffle = raffle.
    But with with no regulation, and easily faked "random" draws though, right? That's the impression I am getting from this thread.

    With Corvettes and boats and other things of high value being raffled, the effort required to fake a draw would be incredibly low compared to the reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_rice View Post
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    What'd ya win?Anything big
    His wins were pretty big.

    @JfuckinC you think the zr1 waffle was rigged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester View Post
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    His wins were pretty big.

    @JfuckinC you think the zr1 waffle was rigged?
    I’m not saying it was but knowing how bad he wanted that car and that his neighbour won the Corvette before...seems slightly fishy.

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    Definitely hard to not think it was Fishy i agree lol... They Re-structred the page now so is that a tell it was shady?


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    Shady indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarphreak View Post
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    I thought that a certain percentage of gambling profits has to go to charity... like 50% or something
    60% of proceeds go to charity IF you are a registered non profit/charity with AGLC raffle license.

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    Only 100 spots left on this Lambo waffle. Few of you fuckers should get in on that and get the thing drawn for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    Only 100 spots left on this Lambo waffle. Few of you fuckers should get in on that and get the thing drawn for.
    I don't feel like paying the waffle runner to win it. I mean, if I did, I'd just donate to a go-fund-me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    I don't feel like paying the waffle runner to win it. I mean, if I did, I'd just donate to a go-fund-me

    I can assure you if that happens the car will burn to the ground.........................spontaneously of course.

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    Enjoy your arson.

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    It won't be the actual person, but I bet it's a friend/family/associate that does. There's a reason this kind of thing is illegal, and it's not just for tax purposes.

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    What pisses me off is when actual businesses use these pages to move their old inventory... so many sleds, bikes, side by sides straight from the showroom floor... or “pick between this that or the other model” BS

    Would be interesting if they ever got audited... “Hrm... why do you have 200 emt’s for $150??”

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