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    Quote Originally Posted by Disoblige View Post
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    What other automatic Corvettes have you driven other than the 2009 Corvette you rented a decade ago that you always mention when there is a conversation about transmissions?
    That I always mention? A wee bit dramatic don't you think I've brought it up a few times in the appropriate threads/context or when asked, yes - no different than anyone else.

    Aside from that one I've driven 2 C7's and they were autos. 2014 and 2017 if memory serves me. What you're thinking of is the one I rented. I've ridden in several more, but was not able to drive them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    I think I've only ever been in Chrysler/Dodge dealer once, to look at the new Durango a couple of years ago. It was terrible and we left before even looking at a car seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRyn View Post
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    Which automatic transmissions do you like?
    The autos in Mercedes' more recent AMG product in general are probably some of the best I have experienced. Other times you can have an otherwise good transmission but with bad programming.

    I much prefer DCTs, hence my earlier comments that I am very excited the C8 is getting a DCT, to the point that I would seriously consider one sometime down the road if it checks the rest of my boxes.

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    The 8 speed in the C7 wasn't a very good auto transmission imo.

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    C7 8-speed slush box automatic shifts faster then Porsche PDK but that’s not good enough for Beyond! I love it! (Yes, the article references the Z06.)

    https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-pdk-heres-how

    The old 6-speed auto in my wagon is also a much better transmission then the auto in my buddies 2014 E63.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    C7 8-speed slush box automatic shifts faster then Porsche PDK but that’s not good enough for Beyond! I love it! (Yes, the article references the Z06.)

    https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-pdk-heres-how

    The old 6-speed auto in my wagon is also a much better transmission then the auto in my buddies 2014 E63.
    To be fair, shift speed and reaction speed (time between when I click the paddle to when it actually engages new gear) are 2 completely separate things that one would quantify transmission quality and performance. Even the AMG slush boxes couldn’t get close to DCT/PDK reaction speeds until 2 years ago. So much so that the SLS and AMG GT dct was specifically programmed to slow reaction speeds on purpose to feel more like AMGs slushboxes. A moot point in auto mode as the car would predict when to shift anyways, but a huge problem in manual mode.

    I’ve never driven the vette auto so not sure if that’s the case but just wanted to point this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    You put a deposit in?
    No. I dont need to be an early adopter on the Vette. Better to wait a few months (year?) and pick one up when supply has freed up.

    It's more causing a problem with my next car decision. How do you justify 2x or 2.5x on a Mclaren which is better, but not a ton better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    No. I dont need to be an early adopter on the Vette. Better to wait a few months (year?) and pick one up when supply has freed up.

    It's more causing a problem with my next car decision. How do you justify 2x or 2.5x on a Mclaren which is better, but not a ton better?
    What could you do to a C8 with those saved monies, could it be enough to not do a McLaren?
    Will fuck off, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    No. I dont need to be an early adopter on the Vette. Better to wait a few months (year?) and pick one up when supply has freed up.

    It's more causing a problem with my next car decision. How do you justify 2x or 2.5x on a Mclaren which is better, but not a ton better?
    Well I mean that's like saying why would you spend $40K + on a Patek or a Rolex when you could get a Hamilton for $1K or a Citizen quartz watch for $100? I mean they all tell the time equally - well more or less. lol. If Mclaren is an option the Corvette shouldn't even be in the same running I would say. Each conveys a completely different message regardless of them performing similarly. The brand is what you're paying the double/triple for not the betterment in performance. My opinion of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakalaka View Post
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    Well I mean that's like saying why would you spend $40K + on a Patek or a Rolex when you could get a Hamilton for $1K or a Citizen quartz watch for $100? I mean they all tell the time equally - well more or less. lol. If Mclaren is an option the Corvette shouldn't even be in the same running I would say. Each conveys a completely different message regardless of them performing similarly. The brand is what you're paying the double/triple for not the betterment in performance. My opinion of course.
    It's a worthwhile comparison. The difference is that you drive a car, and you only really look at a watch. I don't care that much about brand when it comes to cars. I'll buy something based on the experience regardless of the label. Cars exist in a weird space between experience, design, and engineering. There are MANY more factors to consider with a car than with a watch. Watches all tell time the same, but cars are experienced much differently from each other.

    There are some compelling reasons for a Vette over a Mclaren. Cost is obviously one. But general reliability, warranty, dealership convenience, easy to flip in a couple of years, big NA V8, modern amenities, more storage for weekend trips.

    I've had Vettes in the past (C6 Z06), so I'm not opposed to the idea. But I hadn't considered them recently. But the fact that this car is making me pause about my next car purchase speaks volumes about what they (seem to) have accomplished.

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    It's definitely a pretty impressive car based on what we can tell so far. No doubt about that. I guess I just personally wouldn't draw that comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    To be fair, shift speed and reaction speed (time between when I click the paddle to when it actually engages new gear) are 2 completely separate things that one would quantify transmission quality and performance. Even the AMG slush boxes couldn’t get close to DCT/PDK reaction speeds until 2 years ago. So much so that the SLS and AMG GT dct was specifically programmed to slow reaction speeds on purpose to feel more like AMGs slushboxes. A moot point in auto mode as the car would predict when to shift anyways, but a huge problem in manual mode.

    I’ve never driven the vette auto so not sure if that’s the case but just wanted to point this out.
    The actual behavior of the transmission(tuning) is a big factor too. I don't care how fast it shifts, if it is never in the right gear, or downshifting at weird times, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    No. I dont need to be an early adopter on the Vette. Better to wait a few months (year?) and pick one up when supply has freed up.

    It's more causing a problem with my next car decision. How do you justify 2x or 2.5x on a Mclaren which is better, but not a ton better?
    My hope is to be able to pick up a sweet Z06 for pennies on the dollar or something once this drop
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakalaka View Post
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    Well I mean that's like saying why would you spend $40K + on a Patek or a Rolex when you could get a Hamilton for $1K or a Citizen quartz watch for $100? I mean they all tell the time equally - well more or less. lol. If Mclaren is an option the Corvette shouldn't even be in the same running I would say. Each conveys a completely different message regardless of them performing similarly. The brand is what you're paying the double/triple for not the betterment in performance. My opinion of course.
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    It's a worthwhile comparison. The difference is that you drive a car, and you only really look at a watch. I don't care that much about brand when it comes to cars. I'll buy something based on the experience regardless of the label. Cars exist in a weird space between experience, design, and engineering. There are MANY more factors to consider with a car than with a watch. Watches all tell time the same, but cars are experienced much differently from each other.
    That's a terrible comparison. Patek's typically maintain or gain value, while a Citizen is worthless.

    A better comparison to McLaren is Hublot hahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    If you think C7 is common, GM is about to double shifts for C8.
    The car will be sold all over the world now since they are also making a RHD version, so even if they double production I still think the car won't be much more common in North America than the C7 is.

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    I’m going to get one at launch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukyo8 View Post
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    The car will be sold all over the world now since they are also making a RHD version, so even if they double production I still think the car won't be much more common in North America than the C7 is.
    Is allocation really at 10 units for all of Canada for the 2020 model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    The actual behavior of the transmission(tuning) is a big factor too. I don't care how fast it shifts, if it is never in the right gear, or downshifting at weird times, etc.
    This is a problem with a lot of vehicles and is why I mentioned this exact thing in my previous post - anyone can go out and buy the ZF 8spd that is in almost everything these days or the best auto tranny in the world but if the programming is shit or if there is a lot of paddle delay, it doesn't matter how fast the shifts are, it can still be very unpleasant to drive. Even MB used to have the most brutal paddle delay, but they have got much better in the recent iterations IMO.

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