Quantcast
Calgary Flames MEGA THREAD 2019-2020 Edition - Beyond.ca - Car Forums
Page 1 of 9 1 2 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 176

Thread: Calgary Flames MEGA THREAD 2019-2020 Edition

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Calgary, Alberta
    My Ride
    (maah raahde)
    Posts
    5,736
    Rep Power
    27

    Default Calgary Flames MEGA THREAD 2019-2020 Edition



    Wow, I was expecting $3.25-4M/AAV depending on the term.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    IAH bar
    My Ride
    UA6295 seat 22A
    Posts
    6,356
    Rep Power
    28

    Default

    That's a great deal of he wins and keeps the #1 spot.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    A Slow Car
    Posts
    744
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Frolik's name is trending on twitter so i think they are trying to trade him.
    2007 Lexus RX 350
    2004 BMW X5 SOLD
    2003 G35 Coupe For Sale
    1998 Camry CE V6 SOLD
    1995 Z28 LT1 M6 Modded (Torque Monster) SOLD
    1994 Camry LE 2.2L (Written Off)
    1991 Nissan Maxima SOLD
    1990 Honda Civic DX HB SOLD
    1982 Datsun 280ZX SOLD

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    GLA
    Posts
    1,744
    Rep Power
    24

    Default

    Maybe lucic can top him up a mil or so

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Calgary, Alberta
    My Ride
    (maah raahde)
    Posts
    5,736
    Rep Power
    27

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Cowtown
    My Ride
    370Z duhh
    Posts
    118
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Marner has been signed. For a shitload of money... come on Tkachuk.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Foothills County
    My Ride
    is faster than yours
    Posts
    969
    Rep Power
    15

    Default

    Lucic just did more in one shift than Neal did all of last year!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    Axis powers
    Posts
    2,324
    Rep Power
    16

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    403
    Posts
    4
    Rep Power
    0

    Default





    Let's Go!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    19 Ram Sport, Turbo Beretta
    Posts
    1,562
    Rep Power
    16

    Default

    TERRIBLE.. he should NOT be the highest paid player on the flames..

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    Goes Vrr and PShh.
    Posts
    45
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GOnSHO View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    TERRIBLE.. he should NOT be the highest paid player on the flames..
    Wrong way to look at it, as the cap increases every year player salary's obviously increase. You need to look at % of salary cap that year for value on a player. Tkachuk is only getting paid 250,000.00 more than Gio and Johnny Hockey, but compared to the cap when those contracts were signed to now, he is making less percentage for market cap then they are.

    What are you supposed to do? Sign Crosby for 7 years and not pay any players more money than he makes a year for those seven years?

    I like the contract.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Calgary/Alberta
    Posts
    1,227
    Rep Power
    14

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GOnSHO View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    TERRIBLE.. he should NOT be the highest paid player on the flames..
    How the business goes, if cap goes up x% then the next contract up is bound to exceed previous by said %

    But he is one of the top players on the Flames and 21 years old, might I ask what value you think he should have signed for given his numbers?

    Had the number approached 9.5... could be a different story. Now we will get to watch what he does for the next 3 years, if he improves his next contract will be much larger.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    403
    My Ride
    Bunch of Honda's
    Posts
    5,900
    Rep Power
    22

    Default

    More AAV then I wanted to see, but Dubas really fucked the league over with his stupid overpriced RFA Matthews contract.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    19 Ram Sport, Turbo Beretta
    Posts
    1,562
    Rep Power
    16

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by colinxx235 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    How the business goes, if cap goes up x% then the next contract up is bound to exceed previous by said %

    But he is one of the top players on the Flames and 21 years old, might I ask what value you think he should have signed for given his numbers?

    Had the number approached 9.5... could be a different story. Now we will get to watch what he does for the next 3 years, if he improves his next contract will be much larger.
    Personally, I wouldve been ok with around the $6m AAV, we literally have no cap space left and have to CUT a roster spot.. He was streaky, had TRIPLE the penalty minutes of Johnny, and 5x as many as Monahan and middle of the pack +/- numbers, just dont see him as a $7m player.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Calgary/Alberta
    Posts
    1,227
    Rep Power
    14

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GOnSHO View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Personally, I wouldve been ok with around the $6m AAV, we literally have no cap space left and have to CUT a roster spot.. He was streaky, had TRIPLE the penalty minutes of Johnny, and 5x as many as Monahan and middle of the pack +/- numbers, just dont see him as a $7m player.
    He had a bad streak from Jan - March but how much of that also had to do with the play of his linemates. When I look at him while he might get 62 PIMs I have a feeling he draws the most penalties on the flames (I tried to find some advanced analytics quickly but came short). What stands out to me is that he was +30 and +40 on Backlund/Frolik respectively while playing on a line that primarily takes on the opponents top line as a shutdown and counter punch. You also have to consider that he plays both sides of the ice, PP and PK, and is only getting better. Had it not been for that dry spell he probably would have been in the 90s for points.

    JG went from 4 PIMs 2 years ago to getting mid 20s back to back seasons. Monahan is probably the furthest from aggressive you can get which is reflected in his PIMs total. The +- is a difficult stat with him given how much he played between lines on extra minutes and role he was asked to play.

    If he was on the top line I would suspect his numbers would reflect more of that.

    I don't think I'm alone in respect to his value, many of the "experts" were anticipating something in the 8.5-9ish range originally with a long term. Calgary is I guess gambling that he won't become a 1+pt/game player or were trying to crunch some short term numbers.

    Sadly the sacrificing of a player has come against a few things. The Neal contract came back to bite big time and the Lucic trade is just... yah don't like to dive in on that. But having Valimaki get hurt and re-signing stone was unplanned and that alone had us under. Then you have the failed trades of Brodie that don't help, plus I keep hearing they have been trying to ship out Frolik to get the number lower. See how the rest unfolds. Worse case I could see them just burying Quine for a while until an injury happens and running 22 if they can't find a trade.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    403
    My Ride
    Bunch of Honda's
    Posts
    5,900
    Rep Power
    22

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GOnSHO View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Personally, I wouldve been ok with around the $6m AAV, we literally have no cap space left and have to CUT a roster spot.. He was streaky, had TRIPLE the penalty minutes of Johnny, and 5x as many as Monahan and middle of the pack +/- numbers, just dont see him as a $7m player.
    PIM comparison to the Flames 2 softest players is an odd take.

    And +/- is a stupid individual category.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    PEI
    My Ride
    Sierra 1500
    Posts
    302
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    I'm okay with the $ amount and term, we're in a tight tight cap point at the moment and the term will let the team see how much he develops past his first few seasons to see if he warrants a big dollar contract in 3 years.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Calgary, Ab
    My Ride
    Zonda CRV
    Posts
    590
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    I went to the game yesterday.. It was fun.
    Ive not been to the saddle dome in ages...
    Why is the food so bad at the stadium...? Why why..? I had this weird dried up burger and with dried up chicken fingers...
    Its just after 3pm and I still have not gone to the toilet. This is not normal.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    2,117
    Rep Power
    14

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GOnSHO View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    TERRIBLE.. he should NOT be the highest paid player on the flames..
    It is just how the league works with when you signed your contract in relation to the salary cap that year, for instance look at the Avalanche. Nathan Mackinnon is a top 5 player in the league and he is getting criminally underpaid at $6.3M. Rantanen is about to sign and most likely make north of $9M, despite being less valuable a player.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Calgary
    My Ride
    GLA
    Posts
    1,744
    Rep Power
    24

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tonytiger55 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I went to the game yesterday.. It was fun.
    Ive not been to the saddle dome in ages...
    Why is the food so bad at the stadium...? Why why..? I had this weird dried up burger and with dried up chicken fingers...
    Its just after 3pm and I still have not gone to the toilet. This is not normal.
    vindaloo?

Page 1 of 9 1 2 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NHL Thread

    By asp integra in forum Sports, Health & Fitness
    Replies: 51
    Latest Threads: 12-06-2019, 10:59 PM
  2. Calgary Flames MEGA THREAD 2018-2019 Edition

    By D'z Nutz in forum Sports, Health & Fitness
    Replies: 970
    Latest Threads: 04-23-2019, 09:32 AM
  3. Calgary Flames MEGA THREAD 2008-2009 edition

    By rage2 in forum Sports, Health & Fitness
    Replies: 5191
    Latest Threads: 04-29-2009, 08:37 PM
  4. Calgary Flames MEGA THREAD 2007-2008 edition

    By forced_eg in forum Sports, Health & Fitness
    Replies: 3485
    Latest Threads: 04-30-2008, 01:43 PM
  5. Calgary Flames MEGA THREAD: 2006-2007 Edition

    By Kirbs17 in forum Sports, Health & Fitness
    Replies: 4144
    Latest Threads: 06-23-2007, 01:38 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •