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    Building my first home right now which comes with a 20x21 pad. Asked about the cost to upgrade to a 22x24 pad and that came out to $5000 which I have a hard time wrapping my head around, in my mind itís hard to justify that for an extra 6sqft? Is it possible to extend a garage pad at all or would I have to rip it out and repour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyra1ax View Post
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    Building my first home right now which comes with a 20x21 pad. Asked about the cost to upgrade to a 22x24 pad and that came out to $5000 which I have a hard time wrapping my head around, in my mind it’s hard to justify that for an extra 6sqft? Is it possible to extend a garage pad at all or would I have to rip it out and repour?
    That's 108 extra square feet there, Marth.
    But it's still a criminal hose job unless it's like 8" thick. Do they tell you what the initial pad cost is?
    It's possible to add to a pad but to add such a tiny area to the perimeter where the frame of the building will actually sit is getting a bit controversial.
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    I would spend a lot more than 5 grand to expand my garage to those dimensions FWIW.

    Having a small garage is a huge PIA, mine is 19x19 interior dimensions and you essentially either store cars in there or other things, not both.

    Also you would be hard pressed to fit a half ton in 20x21, which will affect resale.
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    I have problems getting my phat ass out of my cars in a 22x24. That is why I downsized to 20x21and park in the field. I put the extra $5k I saved into a GIC earning 3.5% a year. Blinging.

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    Larger garage is very valuable to your lifestyle. But that cost is insane. Ask home builder to skip garage and give you credit and use your own contractor for a better price.
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    Are they saying $5k more just for the extra concrete or to make the entire garage bigger?

    If itís just the pad, thatís a massive ripoff. Iím building an extra garage for my truck and plow along with other machines and itís $5,200 for a 30x16 concrete pad with the edges thickened to 12Ē.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Ask home builder to skip garage and give you credit and use your own contractor for a better price.
    This. That's essentially what we did and it was actually pretty significant. The accounted for something like 22k for a 20x20 garage, where I got a 24X26 for 25k (no wiring, no heat, and no interior finishing). I think the total concrete pad of my garage came to like 7g. Even the sales lady told me that their costs were ridiculously overpriced and she'd rather cut the cost from the sale of the house.

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    Are they saying $5k more just for the extra concrete or to make the entire garage bigger?
    Actually that's a good point. If its to make the whole garage bigger then 5g isn't terrible.
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    Yeah, I interpreted it as "I will charge you an extra $5k if you want it a tiny bit bigger".

    Not, "your overall charge will jump to $5k and that buys you a 22'x24' pad."

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    The initial 20x21 pad is included, so I interpret it as $5k to extend it to a 22’x24’ pad. They didn’t give me a cost for the base pad either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyra1ax View Post
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    The initial 20x21 pad is included, so I interpret it as $5k to extend it to a 22’x24’ pad. They didn’t give me a cost for the base pad either.
    Then that's fucked and do as ExtraSlow said.
    Your credit should be roughly double the cost of the concrete. Maybe $3-4k credit.
    I thought concrete was roughly $350/m^3, but I can never remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Then that's fucked and do as ExtraSlow said.
    Your credit should be roughly double the cost of the concrete. Maybe $3-4k credit.
    I thought concrete was roughly $350/m^3, but I can never remember.
    Yeah that’s what I thought. If I read what ExtraSlow said correctly, it’s to get them to not pour a pad at all and credit me for that, which I put towards my own contractor?

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    Can I ask a ridiculous question?

    Not defending builder - but gotta ask, what's the property line / frontage like? If I was quoting a pad and the dimensions put us into needing easement on eaves distance / sqft of lot etc - I'd be making sure to include those extra costs into the pad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyra1ax View Post
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    Yeah thatís what I thought. If I read what ExtraSlow said correctly, itís to get them to not pour a pad at all and credit me for that, which I put towards my own contractor?
    Yes. Your 20x21 should be about 140-150ft^3 of concrete at 4" thick which is about 4.16m^3.
    Figure out what that concrete costs, double it and that should roughly be your credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    Can I ask a ridiculous question?

    Not defending builder - but gotta ask, what's the property line / frontage like? If I was quoting a pad and the dimensions put us into needing easement on eaves distance / sqft of lot etc - I'd be making sure to include those extra costs into the pad price.
    Good call, could be more going on here than is obvious from just extra materials standpoint.
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    That's the lot, 30' in the front and 36' in the back. The little box beside the 36 is the side the garage would be on, but the builder is willing to put in a 22x24 without issue so I don't think easements or anything like that would be an issue.
    No-go on the "no pad but credit me" scheme either.
    If I do the Marth and divide the total square footage of 22x24 by the $5k, I come out to $9ish/sqft, which seems like the high going rate based off my few minutes of google?
    Found an old thread here where someone was asking about pad extensions as well, sounds like it can be done at least...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyra1ax View Post
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    That's the lot, 30' in the front and 36' in the back. The little box beside the 36 is the side the garage would be on, but the builder is willing to put in a 22x24 without issue so I don't think easements or anything like that would be an issue.
    No-go on the "no pad but credit me" scheme either.
    If I do the Marth and divide the total square footage of 22x24 by the $5k, I come out to $9ish/sqft, which seems like the high going rate based off my few minutes of google?
    Found an old thread here where someone was asking about pad extensions as well, sounds like it can be done at least...
    I see the problem.
    This property is in Guinea! You had portrayed it as if we were talking a property in Calgary, or at least Southern Alberta!
    You can't compare concrete TIC between Guinea and Calgary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    I see the problem.
    This property is in Guinea! You had portrayed it as if we were talking a property in Calgary, or at least Southern Alberta!
    You can't compare concrete TIC between Guinea and Calgary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyra1ax View Post
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    That's the lot, 30' in the front and 36' in the back. The little box beside the 36 is the side the garage would be on, but the builder is willing to put in a 22x24 without issue so I don't think easements or anything like that would be an issue.
    No-go on the "no pad but credit me" scheme either.
    If I do the Marth and divide the total square footage of 22x24 by the $5k, I come out to $9ish/sqft, which seems like the high going rate based off my few minutes of google?
    Found an old thread here where someone was asking about pad extensions as well, sounds like it can be done at least...
    That math doesn't make sense. Unless I'm still reading this wrong? Sounds like you already are paying for 20x21 in your home purchase. The 5k is extra charge for an extra 108sqft of concrete. Which is 46$/sqft, Going rate for finished concrete is 11$/sqft. If they are removing your original concrete cost for 20x21, and changing it to 5k for a 22x24 pad instead, then jump on that. $9.5/sqft is pretty good if they aren't going to cut corners and cheap out on rebar and concrete thickness.

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    It was never clarified if they were charging for just the larger pad or for the entire larger garage.
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    That math doesn't make sense. Unless I'm still reading this wrong? Sounds like you already are paying for 20x21 in your home purchase. The 5k is extra charge for an extra 108sqft of concrete. Which is 46$/sqft, Going rate for finished concrete is 11$/sqft. If they are removing your original concrete cost for 20x21, and changing it to 5k for a 22x24 pad instead, then jump on that. $9.5/sqft is pretty good if they aren't going to cut corners and cheap out on rebar and concrete thickness.
    No, you read it right, they’re charging me $46/sqft. They also won’t credit me back the cost for the included 20x21 pad which blows.
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    It was never clarified if they were charging for just the larger pad or for the entire larger garage.
    Sorry, thought it was clear, they’re charging to add 108sqft to the included 20x21 pad. There’s no construction going on top.

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